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Bleach Bankai General Discussion Thread 21

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The word "become" is meant for present tense otherwise it wouldn't make sense to give him such an offer in such a weak state. But I digress Ginjo is always been fodder nonetheless.
 
Ginjo is a soul king candidate because he is soul reaper, hollow, Quincy and Fullbring, that's all. Power had nothing to do with that statement.

And for Mimihagi scaling, I meant it's better to downgrade Mimihagi, not upgrade Pernida. Pernida makes sense where he's at, Mimihagi is the one who is messing things up.
 
Why would we downgrade Mimihagi? I dont think there's any reason to do so. All other parts of the SK are different in both abilities and raw power.
 
i don't see any reason to downgrade mimihagi , we have a clear feat of it stopping the fusing of the worlds and maintaning them separated for a while .
 
Also, Mimihagi is the right arm of the SK, meaning its normal for him to be stronger than the left arm... yeah, idk if this even matters, please ignore it if it doesnt lol
 
Because as it was stated, he was easily defeated by Yhwach. The almighty doesn't boost stats either.

It makes more sense to say Mimihagi performs his feat via hax, since he governs stagnation and can stop literally anything from progressing, stopping the collapse of the worlds should fall under something he could halt.
 
Amlad22 said:
Because as it was stated, he was easily defeated by Yhwach. The almighty doesn't boost stats either.
It makes more sense to say Mimihagi performs his feat via hax, since he governs stagnation and can stop literally anything from progressing, stopping the collapse of the worlds should fall under something he could halt.
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the almighty in itself doesn't boost stats but yhwach regained more of his might too , as the quincy song said .
 
I've always thought that Mimihagi stabilizing the world's doesn't literally translate to Mimihagi's AP and Durability.

Mimihagi stabilizing the world only seemed like a temporary solution which would last until Ukitake's life ran out.
 
Damage3245 said:
I've always thought that Mimihagi stabilizing the world's doesn't literally translate to Mimihagi's AP and Durability.
Mimihagi stabilizing the world only seemed like a temporary solution which would last until Ukitake's life ran out.
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yoruichi wanted to make it the new soul king tho .
 
Didn't Ukitake also wanted Mimihagi to take SK's place? Like, that's the reason he sacrifed his life for. Also, pretty sure that Mimihagi's life isn't bound to Ukitake's as it was alive for million of years before Ukitake was even born.
 
Mimihagi's Life Span isn't bound to Ukitake, it's the other way around. Mimihagi was the one keeping Jushiro alive.
 
Mimihagi's power is literally stagnation. He stops things from evolving or continuing. Stopping the worlds from collapsing is something that would fall under his ability.
 
Soul king has multiversal range, doesn't make his AP multiversal. Mimihagi can have planetary range and country level AP
 
Amlad22 said:
He didn't perform the feat at all. It's his power of stagnation. SK does it with reiatsu alone.
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do you have any proof of that ? i don't recall a single statement saying that mimihagi stopped the world by using specifically his stagnation power .
 
His power is stagnation? Is that being forgotten? The character who's power is directly stated to halt anything, stops something from happening. Common sense is all you need to put two and two together
 
Not really - the worlds are stablized via reiatsu, it makes sense to think that when Mimihagi takes over, it is using its own reiatsu to do so.
 
Not when the entity involved in the feat governs stagnation itself. Then it's not so straightforward. We've seen examples of what Mimihagi can do with Ukitake for instance. Halting the growth of the deadly diseases in Ukitake for over a thousand years.
 
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Not when the entity involved in the feat governs stagnation itself. Then it's not so straightforward. We've seen examples of what Mimihagi can do with Ukitake for instance. Halting the growth of the deadly diseases in Ukitake for over a thousand years.
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If Mimihagi's stagnation powers were affecting the three worlds, then that would make the three worlds freeze in time because that's how stagnation works - but they aren't, the world keeps moving, he's just stopping the worlds from collapsing.
 
Using that logic Ukitake should have been frozen in time along with his disease but that didn't happen. Mimihagi has shown he can directly impact aspects of a greater being. In this case, stopping the merging of the worlds without stopping the worlds themselves. Just like stopping a disease flowing through Ukitake's body without stopping him from doing his thing.
 
Occam's razor goes against your assertion as everyone else who does this, does so through power. Sure it can be argued that he is using stagnation but why do that when we have never seen him do anything of the sort on such a scale and the feat is performed differently (in the same way) in every other case with his stagnation not even being hinted to be the cause. Hell his stagnation even requires power as seen with Ukitake needing to use his reiatsu to halt his sickness despite having Mimi.
 
Yeah, Ukitake was suffering of the effects of his illness for all his life, meaning that Mimihagi's Stagnation power didn't/wasn't able to fully stop the illness. So, if Mimihagi couldn't fully stop an illness in a dude, how would it even have the power to stop 3 planets/dimensions from colliding with each other and also be a suitable replacement for the Soul King?
 
Ovy7 said:
Yeah, Ukitake was suffering of the effects of his illness for all his life, meaning that Mimihagi's Stagnation power didn't/wasn't able to fully stop the illness. So, if Mimihagi couldn't fully stop an illness in a dude, how would it even have the power to stop 3 planets/dimensions from colliding with each other and also be a suitable replacement for the Soul King?
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that's true , even with mimihagi , ukitake still had pretty bad days with his disease so mimihagi couldn't complelty make it stagnate .
 
IIRC, even is character bio in one of the volumes has a statement on how Ukitake isn't that active because of his sickly state.

It's pretty ludicrous to think that Mimihagi's Stagnation ability didn't have the power to stop an illness but could stop 3 planets. . . maybe unless said illness is super-mega cancer or something lol.
 
super mega cancer hmm ?

didn't pernida also got pwnd by a super mega cancer of sorts after eating nemu ?

i see a correlation here lmao . i'm joking of course .
 
Ukitake had all the lung diseases and cancers of 4 planets simultaneously. Thats why Mimi with his 3 planet stagnation couldn't stop it.
 
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Ukitake had all the lung diseases and cancers of 4 planets simultaneously. Thats why Mimi with his 3 planet stagnation couldn't stop it.
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ukitake was the christ who took upon himself all the diseases of reality onto his lungs , obviously .
 
What do you think was Ichigo's Fullbring name? It wasn't Zangetsu because that was his Soul Reaper, Hollow and Quincy powers. Amazing Armor of Justice?
 
Excuse me,but wasn't Cero Oscuras X10 multiplier accepted?

and if Yes,then shouldn't R1 Ulq be low 6-B with His Cero Oscuras? (120 gigatons X 10 = 1.2 Teraton, just above baseline low 6-B)
 
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