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Bleach Bankai General Discussion Thread 21
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Actually Ichigo had used Yhwach's sword for itOvy7 said:
And Yhwach was forcing him to it
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And Ichigo was trying to resist that too but that doesn't actually matter...I guess
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That's actually true, yeah.
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Ehh wouldn't that be Willpower manipulation for Yhwach?
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Not really, he's not manipulating Ichigo's will, he was controlling his body with the Reiatsu in him.
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Body Puppetry or possession.
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Body puppetry I'd say.
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Are we sure he broke out of it? To me it just seemed like Yhwach was done controlling him.
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Yeah Ichigo definitely forcibly broke out of something that made him cut don the Soul King
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Is it possible for someone to give me links to all the accepted speed feats in the verse? Just want to see them.
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Should also be a lifting strength feat for Ichigo since body puppetry is also lifting strength based. Although I'm not sure what level of lifting strength Yhwach is at this point.
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TS Ichigo wouldn't beat him but Ichibei definitely does not scale physically. Just a scrap of Ichigo's power so small Ichigo didn't notice anything was missing was enough to rez him. Ichigo also took numerous attacks from SK Yhwach that, while casual, weren't killing him immediately while Ichibe died to one from Almighty Yhwach.
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Almighty doesn't affect stats; however, Yhwach didn't just get the Almighty when he was fighting Ichibei. The Kaiser Song states he gets more power as well.
Ichibei is not going to be scaling.
Ichibei is not going to be scaling.
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@Zezu1995; doesn't that have some odd implications?
If Pernida is Planet level, are we suggesting that Kenpachi and Nemu are Planet level as well?
If Pernida is Planet level, are we suggesting that Kenpachi and Nemu are Planet level as well?
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Don't think Pernida should scale to Mimihagi. Just because both are parts of the SK doesn't mean both are equally strong, otherwise every part, from Pernida and Gerard, to the Hougyoku and every single Fullbringer, would have a reason to be planet lvl because "muh SK parts".
Edit: not to mention that Pernida needed her evolution ability to even survive a blow from base Kenpachi . . . and then there's Gerard who got one-shotted by Byakuya . . . or Oetsu one-shotting both Pernida and Gerard. . . yeah.
Edit: not to mention that Pernida needed her evolution ability to even survive a blow from base Kenpachi . . . and then there's Gerard who got one-shotted by Byakuya . . . or Oetsu one-shotting both Pernida and Gerard. . . yeah.
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i too think that pernida doesn't scale .
i see it more of mimihagi being planet but can't evolve while pernida start weak but have the potential of evolving way beyond planet level if he face off the right opponents .
i see it more of mimihagi being planet but can't evolve while pernida start weak but have the potential of evolving way beyond planet level if he face off the right opponents .
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didn't he said that ginjo could be a suitable SK ?AppleLord said:
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i think it was more in "specie" that he was saying ginjo was close to ichigo being a hybrid too .
but i'm not sure at all .
but i'm not sure at all .
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Tokinada said Ginjo was SK candidate . .
"If you know all that, then how about it? If you become the Rei-o; with the powers of a Fullbringer, a Shinigami and Hollow, then you can either destroy this world or change it, wouldn't you agree?"
"If you know all that, then how about it? If you become the Rei-o; with the powers of a Fullbringer, a Shinigami and Hollow, then you can either destroy this world or change it, wouldn't you agree?"
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I only remember his Getsuga statement
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Ginjo released a massive 'Getsuga Tensho' comparable in power to Ichigo's own. But the red flash emitted by Tokinada diverted its direction.
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That statement doesn't make Ginjo 5-B though.
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It wasn't written in past tense so he wasn't comparing it to a earlier form or they would had mentioned it in the story like previously done with Fullbring powers been comparable to Ichigo's old Shinigami Powers by Ginjo. The novels statements is on paper so Kubo didn't disagreed with it either.
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You're misinterpreting the text then. Using past tense would have been evidence for Ginjo, but as you said it's not. It's using present and future tense. It's saying "become" and "can". Not "now".
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