Arkenis
They/Them- 15,135
- 6,636
Should be double. so around 106 teraton
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Black Clover General Discussion thread
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speedster352
He/Him- 17,363
- 1,776
They are weaker than lucifero
Arkenis
They/Them- 15,135
- 6,636
Arkenis
They/Them- 15,135
- 6,636
oh im sorry I read the scaling wrong.
- The higher 6-B characters such as Devil Union Asta and Lilith & Naamah's fusion are scaled at least 1000x stronger than the lowest 6-C characters (26.5 Teratons)
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Naamah and Lilith are individually 13.25 teratons, put 'em together and you get 26.5 teratons
Half-Manifested Lucifero is at least 53 teratons, then upscales to baseline 6-B+ (53.5 teratons) at full power. His complete manifestation is double that, or 107 teratons
Half-Manifested Lucifero is at least 53 teratons, then upscales to baseline 6-B+ (53.5 teratons) at full power. His complete manifestation is double that, or 107 teratons
Theendzero13
He/Him- 2,786
- 1,328
Super hyper mega ultra casual lucifero is above 26,5 teratons
A more serious casual lucifero is 53 teratons Full power half-manifested is 53,5
And fully manifested lucifero is 107 teratons
A more serious casual lucifero is 53 teratons Full power half-manifested is 53,5
And fully manifested lucifero is 107 teratons
Theendzero13
He/Him- 2,786
- 1,328
Above 53,5
speedster352
He/Him- 17,363
- 1,776
speedster352
He/Him- 17,363
- 1,776
speedster352
He/Him- 17,363
- 1,776
Can lucifero use dante's spells? Since it's his own magic?
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
He/Him- 3,706
- 2,077
He can use Dante's magic
speedster352
He/Him- 17,363
- 1,776
Exactly so why say that he can't
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
He/Him- 3,706
- 2,077
What i was saying that he never used it i'm not saying he can't, he won't use the attack
speedster352
He/Him- 17,363
- 1,776
Why not? I told you that he oneshot the back clover verse why would he need to use EE? Don't bring up Asta he has anti-magic
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
He/Him- 3,706
- 2,077
Because it's OOC for him, He could use it even if asta were there since asta was weakened and beated up to a pulp well except when asta gained true devil union
speedster352
He/Him- 17,363
- 1,776
How is it OOC for him? He one-shot the verse with his hands and one spell. He didn't need to use it. Come on.
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
He/Him- 3,706
- 2,077
Not until later until you've prove that he'll use it, it's otherwise by default will not use it
speedster352
He/Him- 17,363
- 1,776
ocazim razor he will use if he up against a superior opponent
speedster352
He/Him- 17,363
- 1,776
Does he need it though? Many devils fight without grimores.
Arkenis
They/Them- 15,135
- 6,636
They have the spells in the grimoire
- 2,133
- 1,212
Everyone can use magic without a grimoire however more complex uses of magic require a grimoire
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Yes he does specially if he can't beat hus opponent through brute force
speedster352
He/Him- 17,363
- 1,776
Then why doesn't get a grimoire then? It's strange why devils don't have grimoires yet humans do
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
He/Him- 3,706
- 2,077
Because they need a five leaf clover griamore or a two spade since the latest chapter kinda hinted two spade is the same as 5 leaf clover
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Theoretically he can, but he’s never been shown using spells like Gravity Singularity
speedster352
He/Him- 17,363
- 1,776
Because he didn't need to he one-shotted the verse. I am pretty sure the grimoire dante used for gravity magic was not his but lucifero's
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Yeah clearly he can, those spells ARE Lucifero’s, bestowed onto Dante
- 10,498
- 9,055
I mean, Lucifero uses the "Presence of the Demon King". So in theory he would be able to use the gravitational singularity, but Tabata forgot about this power
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I’m not sure he forgot, that seems pretty important. Maybe it’s because Lucifero didn’t have a grimoire? I dunno
Popted2
He/Him- 8,550
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and because Lucifero is like SUPER ARROGANT TILL THE DEATH
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That too
speedster352
He/Him- 17,363
- 1,776
O he didn't need to he one shotted the verse also Asta has ant magic
- 10,498
- 9,055
The guy literally ran away like a rat after seeing Asta's stamina
Popted2
He/Him- 8,550
- 4,445
correction: arrogant till he get his ass beatenThe guy literally ran away like a rat after seeing Asta's stamina
aahhhhhhhhhh the satisfaction of the scene
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There’s a certain satisfaction in seeing the mighty fall
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But honestly what was the point of just bringing up half powered lucifero? Could've used another Supreme devil for a final boss for this arc
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
He/Him- 3,706
- 2,077
Lucius plans prolly adramelech even said "it happened just as you say lucius zogratis" not exactly what he said but something like that lucius has a plan on using luciferos heart
