Bill's Passive Abilities

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

So, is Bill getting these passive haxes?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

No.

 

[Eficiente]

I wanna to remove some stuff from his profile, that needs some attention.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Yeah like his Death Manip needs to go.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I agree with removing death manipulation. Never demonstrated that.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Yeah. I think it was only really added since Bill stated that "he would kill one of them just for the heck of it" in the finale, but since Bill's AP >>>>> Dipper & Mabel'd durability, he could just kill them easily. If it weren't for PIS of course

 

[Elizhaa]

I agree with the Death Manipulation removal; I just want to know what else would need to be removed, Eficiente?

 

[Eficiente]

• On his Enhanced Senses only this part: "Has knowledge of the past, present, and future." I have the tiny fear that it may be correct and the user who added it just didn't put from where does it come from, but it's most likely a misinterpretation of things he has done.
• Illusion Creation. It was a dream
• Perception Manipulation. It could come from the bubbles of madness I guess? But what others experience there may as well be real, we don't know.
• Only this part of his AP: "Would remove the laws and restrictions of the universe" due to being poetic in context.
• The last part in the Feats part shows a wrong link which needs to be removed.
• Chaos Manipulation. He has powers that are random but that isn't Chaos Manip.

I would have the time to remove all that tomorrow.

 

[Elizhaa]

^^

Seems fine. When the changes are overall agree here by others, I could unlocked the profile to get the changes added

 

[Buttersamuri]

So bill doesn't have passive attacks?

 

[Eficiente]

@Elizhaa Actually only one user argued that, so I'm guessing more should respond to that.

@Butter He needs to actually cause Weirdmageddon, which has most of the passive powers.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

I'm guessing that'd be an in character first thing move.

 

[Eficiente]

One of them, yes.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Wouldn't that change some of his matches perhaps? Many of his matches start with him going Transmutation gg or something, but if he now needs to activate Weirdmaggeddon first that could change some of them.

 

[Eficiente]

Considering that we never saw him fight someone he didn't know anything about it's hard to say that he will ignore an opponent and activate Weirdmaggeddon first, he seems to want to be well informed first. Also he could have expanded Weirdmaggeddon everywhere but he didn't for a while, discovering that he couldn't afterwards. And before even causing Weirdmaggeddon he had Mabel in front of him and put her to sleep.

So, again, this is one of his IC things to do. Not much more.

 

[KGiffoni]

Didn't Mabel get imprisioned in her bubble before Bill even got his physical form?

 

[CinnabarManx421]

No, he got his physical form then she got imprisoned.

 

[KGiffoni]

Oh, i see. Thanks.

 

[Buttersamuri]

If his passive abilities aren't an opener. Then I got a fight to restart

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Butters, I swear to god

 

[Buttersamuri]

Not gonna stop me

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Considering that we never saw him fight someone he didn't know anything about it's hard to say that he will ignore an opponent and activate Weirdmaggeddon first, he seems to want to be well informed first. Also he could have expanded Weirdmaggeddon everywhere but he didn't for a while, discovering that he couldn't afterwards. And before even causing Weirdmaggeddon he had Mabel in front of him and put her to sleep.

So, again, this is one of his IC things to do. Not much more.

Doesn't Bill have to start Weirdmaggedon by default when we talk about "Full Power Bill?" Since he got a lot of his powers by making himself a physical form and starting weirdmaggedon. Without it he's just 11-A Bill

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

The point of the rift is to allow him to manifest himself. He rips a hole in the world so he can form a physical form.

If he could form a 3D body without the rift then the show wouldn't have happened, the whole plot revolves around him teaching sixer how to make a portál so that the chaos from the night mer Realm let's him break the laws of reality.

The fact that weirdmageddon automatically disappears without him also helps that.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

That's just adds to my point. It means that in order for Bill to get his physical form, he has to activate weirdmaggedon first. That means that in every match where Bill is in his physical form, weirdmaggedon already activated.

 

[Eficiente]

It seems rather clear to me that you guys didn't read the stuff above that are the reasons for this to be rejected. If so, what exactly is the plan?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Well, the above doesn't make much sense either. He doesn't spread weirdmageddon. It releases a wave of weirdness on it's own. He was unaware that it was stopped by the barrier, but he does not actively spread it.

Likewise, he doesn't activate weirdmageddon in his tier 2 key. His tier 2 key does is not a thing without weirdmageddon.

 

[Eficiente]

This is where Weirdmageddon happens.
At the beginning, you see the rip in the sky, which was created by the rift shattering, allowing Bill to assume a physical form and his friends from the Nightmare Realm to enter the dimension.

Go to the 2:10 mark, Bill says "it's time we do a little redecorating" then he actively creates a pyramid, summons madness bubbles, stops time, and unleashes a wave. None of this is passive, he is actively warping Gravity Falls to fit his own image, which is what Weirdmageddon is.

For reference.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I know, but regardless the rift slowly ripping reality apart is a thing still.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

To put it simply: Without weirdmaggedon, Bill has no tier 2 key

 

[Antvasima]

What are the conclusions here?

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Bumping cause we aren't done here.

 

[Antvasima]

What are the conclusions here?

^

 

[CinnabarManx421]

I think the only thing we've agreed on so far is this.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That is probably fine then.