Gilad_Hyperstar
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So, is Bill getting these passive haxes?
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Bill's Passive Abilities
- Thread starter Jinsye
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No.
CinnabarManx421
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Yeah like his Death Manip needs to go.
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I agree with removing death manipulation. Never demonstrated that.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Yeah. I think it was only really added since Bill stated that "he would kill one of them just for the heck of it" in the finale, but since Bill's AP >>>>> Dipper & Mabel'd durability, he could just kill them easily. If it weren't for PIS of course
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- On his Enhanced Senses only this part: "Has knowledge of the past, present, and future." I have the tiny fear that it may be correct and the user who added it just didn't put from where does it come from, but it's most likely a misinterpretation of things he has done.
- Illusion Creation. It was a dream
- Perception Manipulation. It could come from the bubbles of madness I guess? But what others experience there may as well be real, we don't know.
- Only this part of his AP: "Would remove the laws and restrictions of the universe" due to being poetic in context.
- The last part in the Feats part shows a wrong link which needs to be removed.
- Chaos Manipulation. He has powers that are random but that isn't Chaos Manip.
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So bill doesn't have passive attacks?
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I'm guessing that'd be an in character first thing move.
CinnabarManx421
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Wouldn't that change some of his matches perhaps? Many of his matches start with him going Transmutation gg or something, but if he now needs to activate Weirdmaggeddon first that could change some of them.
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Considering that we never saw him fight someone he didn't know anything about it's hard to say that he will ignore an opponent and activate Weirdmaggeddon first, he seems to want to be well informed first. Also he could have expanded Weirdmaggeddon everywhere but he didn't for a while, discovering that he couldn't afterwards. And before even causing Weirdmaggeddon he had Mabel in front of him and put her to sleep.
So, again, this is one of his IC things to do. Not much more.
So, again, this is one of his IC things to do. Not much more.
CinnabarManx421
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If his passive abilities aren't an opener. Then I got a fight to restart
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Butters, I swear to god
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Gilad_Hyperstar
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Doesn't Bill have to start Weirdmaggedon by default when we talk about "Full Power Bill?" Since he got a lot of his powers by making himself a physical form and starting weirdmaggedon. Without it he's just 11-A BillEficiente said:
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The point of the rift is to allow him to manifest himself. He rips a hole in the world so he can form a physical form.
If he could form a 3D body without the rift then the show wouldn't have happened, the whole plot revolves around him teaching sixer how to make a portál so that the chaos from the night mer Realm let's him break the laws of reality.
The fact that weirdmageddon automatically disappears without him also helps that.
If he could form a 3D body without the rift then the show wouldn't have happened, the whole plot revolves around him teaching sixer how to make a portál so that the chaos from the night mer Realm let's him break the laws of reality.
The fact that weirdmageddon automatically disappears without him also helps that.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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That's just adds to my point. It means that in order for Bill to get his physical form, he has to activate weirdmaggedon first. That means that in every match where Bill is in his physical form, weirdmaggedon already activated.
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Well, the above doesn't make much sense either. He doesn't spread weirdmageddon. It releases a wave of weirdness on it's own. He was unaware that it was stopped by the barrier, but he does not actively spread it.
Likewise, he doesn't activate weirdmageddon in his tier 2 key. His tier 2 key does is not a thing without weirdmageddon.
Likewise, he doesn't activate weirdmageddon in his tier 2 key. His tier 2 key does is not a thing without weirdmageddon.
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I know, but regardless the rift slowly ripping reality apart is a thing still.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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To put it simply: Without weirdmaggedon, Bill has no tier 2 key
CinnabarManx421
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Bumping cause we aren't done here.
CinnabarManx421
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I think the only thing we've agreed on so far is this.
