@Ricsi-viragosi
- "Having good control over something does not mean you can turn into it. And what about it being directly on its page?"
Not every single thing has to be automatically listed on a page, why do think this wiki constantly updates their pages every day?
- "Weirdness is a subjective term, and as a power it simply acts as either realizy warping or chaos manipulation, it is extremly redundant. Or describe one effect weirdness has that isnt covered by his other abilities."
This is fiction, not irl, so a power being considered subjective is not only false but also irrelvant.
- "Bills dreamscape state is intangible. It shows to have a form, but it cannot be interacted with phisicaly unless the user is in a mindscaper form as well.
Bills body has been shown to be phisical, it has been hit, it has sat on a throne and has never shown to pass through objects."
A disembodied consciousness is Non-Coporeal and Non-Corporeality is a type of lntangibility. so basically you're arguing against something you're defending & has already been accepted at this point. Not to mention that I'm just adding further justification to it.
Wait a second....you could actually be right about that since I just realized that not once has physical Bill has ever displayed Intangibility while having a physical form. So I'll suggest everyone that Intangiblity should be removed for physical Bill Cipher then.
- "Yes, but that is part of shapeshifting, every shapeshifter I can think of can do that, its still extremly redundant to add an ability that another ability already gives.
Hell, flowey can have sound manipulation too then, he can do that. Or an, other decent shapeshifter as well."
Fine, I'll remove Limited Voice Manip. then.
- "But that is still not the point, he directly showed that he doesnt know everything about the future, only showing a few pics and showing lack of knowlege of it later on.
You cannot be constantly learning with night omniscience, you already know the past present and future perfectly."
No proof of that whatsoever.
Who and when is it ever said that he's constantly learning everything that he already knows? Knowing the past meaning knowing everyone's past, not only yours and knowing the future requires a certain level of intellect to do so.
- "Bill Cipher is older than Time itself & has trillions of years worth of knowledge
That does not mean omniscience, he would need to know everything about the future as well, and I mean everything."
When was I ever arguing for Bill Cipher having Omniscience? I clearly said I was arguing for Nigh-Omniscience several times. Bill Cipher has displayed being able to know about the future in multiple instances throughout the show.
- "Bill Cipher knows about the trillion-year-old prophecy that's about to happen in Gravity Falls
Knowing about something that happened long ago does not mean anything on its own."
This simply supports his Nigh-Omniscience and once again, not the main reason why he's Nigh-Omniscient.
- "Bill Cipher has seen & knows the past, present, and future
Only parts of the future, as he obviusly didnt see his own death."
Bill Cipher didn't really "died," he simply said a secret chant to prevent himself from permanently dying.
- "Bill Cipher perceives, seen, aware, and has the knowledge of infinite dimensions/timelines, infinite amount of other Bill Ciphers and the infinite variations of what they do in each timeline using his All-Time Sense
Feeling infinite versions of himself gives no night-omiscience, and he incredibly failed to predict and stop his own demise."
Like I said, Bill Cipher's All-Time Sense supports his Nigh-Omniscience and once again, not the main reason why he's Nigh-Omniscient.
- "Bill Cipher can read your Mind and knows exactly of what you're thinking right now
Reading minds is not something a night omniscient should need to do, he should know everything I will think in the future as well."
TOAA needed to read Thano's mind to know exactly what he requests from him, so I guess he isn't Omniscient nor can be considered Nigh-Omniscient either. So I rest my case with this terrible argument.
- "Bill Cipher has Fourth Wall Awareness
- nightomiscientdeadpool"
Now you're just nitpicking to get your point across and I literally just said, reasons like these supports his Nigh-Omniscience, not the main reason why he's Nigh-Omniscient.
- "Bill Cipher knows basically every event that will & has occurred in Gravity Falls before anyone else know
Exept mixing up stan I guess, that was just beyong hes ability to see, kr that he was going to be tickled once possesing dipper."
Bill Cipher was simply distracted over a deal he couldn't resist & he stated himself before that he has not been in a body in a long time, so that's an exception and not enough to disprove his Nigh-Omniscience.
- "Bill Cipher's Intelligence continuously increases as like he clearly just said, "THE MORE I SEE. THE MORE I KNOW" due to his All-Seeing ability through the cameos and drawn versions of himself throughout Gravity Falls. Bill Cipher doesn't have the Eye of Providence for nothing.
You cannot get constantly smarter and be night-omniscient"
Once again, this just supports his Nigh-Omniscience, not the main reason why he's Nigh-Omniscient.
- "Wow, you should be put into the definition of arrogance"
More like you should be put into the definition of ignorance since I can't believe you don't understand what it means to be Nigh-Omniscient and the clear, obvious requirements of being one.
