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About the "Pis arguments" :
How is that even a thing exactly ? Can anyone tell me why we should ignore all of the anti feats and we simply just consider them Pis and we takes vague statements and feats as legitimate ? That doesn't make sense as Arceus and The Creation Trio as a whole were constantly shown to be harmed by pokemons far weaker than 2-B :
1) we have Arceus who got harmed by thousands of regular pokemons in "Arceus and the Jowel of life" movie :
This does not surprise me considering Arceus got also harmed by Pikachu because apparently Arceus lost one of his plates that gives him resistance to electricity.
2) Arceus struggled against a Meteor and he had a hard time to destroy it :
3) those are clearly 2-B pokemons :
4) and it happened yet again :
5) I'm pretty sure that the one who harmed Darkrai isn't a 2-B pokemon either :
6) but yeah sure we are gonna pretend that all of that shit is just Pis :
7) and just no :
8) Giratina struggled against Rayquaza :
9) yet Dialga himself struggled against Regigigas :
10) and here's an other one :
11) Giratina gets harmed by zero's machine twice but the machine is probably 2-B I guess
12) Mega Latios should have MFTL+ possibly infinite speed I guess
13) and again
14) the 2-B lake guardians got trapped inside of a 2-B machine (obviously) and it was stated that if all the pokemons attacked together the lake trio would get harmed
Do I even need to continue ? 14 anti feats and yet there are still many and there is absolutely no reason why they should be Pis/Outlier if they were consistently shown to be on that level , I really want to ask people with an actual Brain how in the **** this Can be considered Pis if most of their feats were consistently shown to be on that level ?
About the 2-B supporting statements and feats :
After looking at all of the supporting statements and feats that support the Creation Trio and Arceus being 2-B I actually noticed that there is very little evidence that all of those ***** scales to their physical stats and they are mostly done via pure hax due to many reasons :
1) we have absolutely no clue if those low 2-C/2-B feats are done via raw power rather than just hax the reason is that we've never seen destroying the universe directly but they were only doing that via indirect methods such us destroying the universe by distorting/warping Space and time resulting in mixing both past and future which was eventually gonna destroy the whole universe in an unknown time frame , or when they are destroying the universe by just opening portals or making holes in space and time and they always use the same method to destroy the universe which again there is no evidence that those Space-time distortions abilities scales to their stats since it sounds more like hax based to me .
2) looking at their anti feats as shown above there is no wonder that all of those tier 2 feats performed by Palkia and Dialga doesn't scale to their regular stats and that all of them are just done via space-time hax
Yeah don't see how any of that scales to their AP and durability ,the way how Palkia and Dialga perform those Universal feats is pretty simple : Dialga is using time powers and Palkia is using Space powers and by combining those powers together they have the ability to warp/distort Space and time allowing them to destroy universe in the process hence why Cyrus need both Palkia and Dialga together to perform such a feat.
The 5-B Meteor :
Here's the calc
As shown in the Kinetic energy page :
"There is a destruction/AP calculation contradicting a kinetic energy calculation. The destruction/AP calculation would take priority over the kinetic energy calculation in this case as the AP calculation would be a better proof in regards to how much damage he/she is capable of in an attack."
AP/DC feats takes priority over Kinetic energy if said AP contradict the supposed KE and by visual feats alone the meteor only destroyed the planet crust which is High 6-A so this contradict the 5-B KE therefore it should be removed and the Weather trio should be downgraded back to High 6-A
Conclusion :
How is that even a thing exactly ? Can anyone tell me why we should ignore all of the anti feats and we simply just consider them Pis and we takes vague statements and feats as legitimate ? That doesn't make sense as Arceus and The Creation Trio as a whole were constantly shown to be harmed by pokemons far weaker than 2-B :
1) we have Arceus who got harmed by thousands of regular pokemons in "Arceus and the Jowel of life" movie :
This does not surprise me considering Arceus got also harmed by Pikachu because apparently Arceus lost one of his plates that gives him resistance to electricity.
2) Arceus struggled against a Meteor and he had a hard time to destroy it :
3) those are clearly 2-B pokemons :
4) and it happened yet again :
5) I'm pretty sure that the one who harmed Darkrai isn't a 2-B pokemon either :
6) but yeah sure we are gonna pretend that all of that shit is just Pis :
7) and just no :
8) Giratina struggled against Rayquaza :
9) yet Dialga himself struggled against Regigigas :
10) and here's an other one :
11) Giratina gets harmed by zero's machine twice but the machine is probably 2-B I guess
12) Mega Latios should have MFTL+ possibly infinite speed I guess
13) and again
14) the 2-B lake guardians got trapped inside of a 2-B machine (obviously) and it was stated that if all the pokemons attacked together the lake trio would get harmed
Do I even need to continue ? 14 anti feats and yet there are still many and there is absolutely no reason why they should be Pis/Outlier if they were consistently shown to be on that level , I really want to ask people with an actual Brain how in the **** this Can be considered Pis if most of their feats were consistently shown to be on that level ?
About the 2-B supporting statements and feats :
After looking at all of the supporting statements and feats that support the Creation Trio and Arceus being 2-B I actually noticed that there is very little evidence that all of those ***** scales to their physical stats and they are mostly done via pure hax due to many reasons :
1) we have absolutely no clue if those low 2-C/2-B feats are done via raw power rather than just hax the reason is that we've never seen destroying the universe directly but they were only doing that via indirect methods such us destroying the universe by distorting/warping Space and time resulting in mixing both past and future which was eventually gonna destroy the whole universe in an unknown time frame , or when they are destroying the universe by just opening portals or making holes in space and time and they always use the same method to destroy the universe which again there is no evidence that those Space-time distortions abilities scales to their stats since it sounds more like hax based to me .
2) looking at their anti feats as shown above there is no wonder that all of those tier 2 feats performed by Palkia and Dialga doesn't scale to their regular stats and that all of them are just done via space-time hax
Yeah don't see how any of that scales to their AP and durability ,the way how Palkia and Dialga perform those Universal feats is pretty simple : Dialga is using time powers and Palkia is using Space powers and by combining those powers together they have the ability to warp/distort Space and time allowing them to destroy universe in the process hence why Cyrus need both Palkia and Dialga together to perform such a feat.
The 5-B Meteor :
Here's the calc
As shown in the Kinetic energy page :
"There is a destruction/AP calculation contradicting a kinetic energy calculation. The destruction/AP calculation would take priority over the kinetic energy calculation in this case as the AP calculation would be a better proof in regards to how much damage he/she is capable of in an attack."
AP/DC feats takes priority over Kinetic energy if said AP contradict the supposed KE and by visual feats alone the meteor only destroyed the planet crust which is High 6-A so this contradict the 5-B KE therefore it should be removed and the Weather trio should be downgraded back to High 6-A
Conclusion :
- Arceus and the creation true forms would keep their 2-B rating (for now ) as for their avatars they should be downgraded to High 6-A scaling to the weather trio
- None of the creation trio tier 2 feats are done via AP and they are just done via hax that doesn't scale to their regular stats which should explain why we always see them getting harmed by things far lower than Tier 2
- Ultra beasts including Necrozma should also be downgraded to High 6-A the same reasons as the creation Trio and yes absorbing light and lighting up something should be considered hax (Light manipulation ) unless it was specifically shown that it scales to their regular stats
- The Meteor AP result contradict it's KE so it should be removed as stated above
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