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Hmmm, seems illogical. I don't agree
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Ben 10 - Alien X Infinite Attack Speed
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I disagree. I think Alien X can keep infinite speed.
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Was there someone else in the entire cosmos to do so?
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That's the good arguement. Alien X created galaxies and no one in the universe is present there but someone else (who has not been shown) was secretly helping Alien X in moving those galaxies. Bruh.
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The “Universe” in the Ben 10 verse consist of many dimensions like the null void and dimension 10 and so on.
It’s been accepted that Ben recreated all of this as the Annihilarg is accepted as destroying the “universe” and all the dimensions contained within it. Ergo Alien X recreating all the matter across potentially infinite dimensions with an infinite amount of matter being created in the infinite size of the universe giving him an infinite speed rating.
Disagree with this thread.
It’s been accepted that Ben recreated all of this as the Annihilarg is accepted as destroying the “universe” and all the dimensions contained within it. Ergo Alien X recreating all the matter across potentially infinite dimensions with an infinite amount of matter being created in the infinite size of the universe giving him an infinite speed rating.
Disagree with this thread.
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That's again extraordinary claim, if alien x thought the universe in existence and all of it places in one go then universe just has been popped out of nowhere not like how we are shown that it moved to their places coming out of alien X, it seems more of ridiculous interpretation. Alien X first created the spacetime and all of Dimensions then sended the globes to create the respective things at respective places.
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Moving said infinite amount of matter across an infinite sized universe through an infinite number of dimensions does however classify as a speed feat.
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Creating galaxies all over an infinite space basically gives range, not speed. But if Alien x can actually move these galaxies across infinite space(completely), that could give him infinite speed.(attack speed)
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It's not extraordinary, the universe doesn't need to "pop out of nowhere", the orbs materialisng into galaxies can still represent the universe being recreated as a whole. Again, your the one making the claim that Alien X is actively moving these orbs.
Again. Remember that moving objects through an infinite universe does not grant infinite speed, since you are still moving the objects a finite distance. Regardless, I'm currently questioning whether Alien X actively moved those orbs in the first place.
I'm not the one assuming extra things, you are. So it's on you to explicitly prove that Alien X was actively moving the orbs, since this was not shown to us or mentioned either.
I will respond later. I'm going to sleep.
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When he literally is.
It's your claim he thought the universe in existence then what all that process of sending the globes was for? Occam's razor. Simplest answer is likely the right one.
"Again" as if anyone is claiming that moving smth finite distance in the infinite universe is infinite speed. We are saying what has been shown, he sent the globes to their places in the universe, that includes places beyond Ben's Dimension as well, infinite has been crossed far before.
I won't check it and will neither respond. All the arguements has been done and basically has been debated before as well in previous threads.
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Anyway... Let's wait for an admin to come.
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Can I see where in the speed page creating an infinite universe = infinite attack speed?
Shit it ain't even an attack.
Anyways DM @DontTalkDT @Maverick_Zero_X @Eficiente @Everything12
They are normally around in Ben 10 CRTs.
Shit it ain't even an attack.
Anyways DM @DontTalkDT @Maverick_Zero_X @Eficiente @Everything12
They are normally around in Ben 10 CRTs.
Georredannea15
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It does not create an infinite universe. It can move galaxies in infinite space.
This is where the argument for infinite attack speed comes from.
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when has anyone ever said that it was? this is for moving things and filling an infinite space with tk, if you can move things through all of an infinite space with finite speed, then it is infinite speed
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Actually.
Because the universe has possibly an infinite amount of dimensions to it, moving matter across each of those infinite dimensions ANY distance whatsoever would still grant an infinite attack speed.
Because the universe has possibly an infinite amount of dimensions to it, moving matter across each of those infinite dimensions ANY distance whatsoever would still grant an infinite attack speed.
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Mine, only mine. Bolded person is mine.
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Georredannea15
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Ok for now we just have to wait for the admins.
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Me tring to explain why the feat isn't infinity
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there are infinite galaxies tho
Me tring to explain why the feat isn't infinity
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And? just interpret as galaxie C beingh the one that crossed the furtherst distance of all them. having infinit galaxies adds to his LS not speed
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if there is infinite galaxies, then he moved infinite stuff in finite ammount of time, plus if the universe is infinite, then the galaxies are infinite, so there is infinite space where they ocupy, so by moving it to their places he is moving infinite things to infinite places in finite time
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I will not argue with you if this is your conter argument to my explanation, sinse I literraly explained It there, all this distance would only be Y, and not scractch X distance, that is the real infinity here
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Again, this would only give him LS not speed
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No it doesn’t. It directly translates to speed. Because even if you moved an infinite number of galaxies by only 1 millimeter each, that’s still an infinite distance over a finite time.
The fact that Alien X moved an infinite number of galaxy across an infinitely sized universe just cements the notion even further.
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Anything to say LuffyRuffy46307? would really like some more imput here
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there is infinite ammount of stuff to move, how to move all of that with finite speed?
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speed is Time/distance, there is no mass involved in this equation
By moving IT MAYBE? where is the amount of stuff relevant in the speed equation?
Time/Distance, and both of them are finity
Say that there is a infinity amount of stuff just mean he is powerfull enough to move infinity mass
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Your example assumes from the start that Galaxy C is a finite distance away.
Me tring to explain why the feat isn't infinity
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No, the exemple assumes that any distance bellow X is finit, what is true, X is infinity, not Y
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So what argument are you presenting that galaxies don't exist an infinite distance away?
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…..ok….
1) It’s distance/time. It may not seem like a big deal but it changes the equation a lot.
2) What do you think the distance is of moving an infinite number of galaxies by ANY metric whatsoever? It doesn’t matter how small of a number you give, you can give me a .000000000000000001 of a centimeter and it wouldn’t matter. Moving an infinite number of something by any finite distance….means you moved an infinite distance.
3) Time is irrelevant here as well because any finite time still gives an infinite speed status.
So the equation results in an infinite amount of speed
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Well, I agree with your argument, I don't understand about infinite speed, but it is necessary to have canonical statements within the work about citations of the Universe / Infinite Galaxies, something I have never seen in the drawing, if there is anything related to this, it is in third-party things, second works, whose work does not have any mention of being infinite or something like that, it should not be taken seriously, therefore I disagree with any infinite velocity that depends on second hands.
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