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Ben 10 - Alien X Infinite Attack Speed

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Maitreya said:
It’s distance/time. It may not seem like a big deal but it changes the equation a lot.
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I spended some big amounts of time making that explanation so my brain is kinda burned, you right at this
Maitreya said:
What do you think the distance is of moving an infinite number of galaxies by ANY metric whatsoever? It doesn’t matter how small of a number you give, you can give me a .000000000000000001 of a centimeter and it wouldn’t matter. Moving an infinite number of something by any finite distance….means you moved an infinite distance.
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If I move 2 Tennis balls a distance of 4 Meters in 1 minute and them move 5 Tennis balls a distance of 4 meters in 1 minute in both situation I still onlyy moved in a speed of 4 m/s, so no. this would just mean I can hold a big dunking ton of Tennis balls at the same time, what would apply to my range of effect and LS
Maitreya said:
Time is irrelevant here as well because any finite time still gives an infinite speed status.
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You just repeated the last argument
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Well, I agree with your argument, I don't understand about infinite speed, but it is necessary to have canonical statements within the work about citations of the Universe / Infinite Galaxies, something I have never seen in the drawing, if there is anything related to this, it is in third-party things, second works, whose work does not have any mention of being infinite or something like that, it should not be taken seriously, therefore I disagree with any infinite velocity that depends on second hands.
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the ben 10 universe is accepted as infinite
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Well, I agree with your argument, I don't understand about infinite speed, but it is necessary to have canonical statements within the work about citations of the Universe / Infinite Galaxies, something I have never seen in the drawing, if there is anything related to this, it is in third-party things, second works, whose work does not have any mention of being infinite or something like that, it should not be taken seriously, therefore I disagree with any infinite velocity that depends on second hands.
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Ben 10 universe is infinity in size, Alien X whem recreating the mentioned universe moved a infinity amount of galaxies around that infiniti universe

never stated that he move all of them the infinity distance of the universe

they seen to be arguing that the fact that the amount of galaxies are infinitie he should have infinity speed
 
JustANormalLemon said:
If I move 2 Tennis balls a distance of 4 Meters in 1 minute and them move 5 Tennis balls a distance of 4 meters in 1 minute in both situation I still onlyy moved in a speed of 4 m/s, so no. this would just mean I can hold a big dunking ton of Tennis balls at the same time, what would apply to my range of effect and LS
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if he is moving them at finite speed then they would never ever stop since there would be endless tenis balls to move and they would keep moving forever
 
JustANormalLemon said:
If I move 2 Tennis balls a distance of 4 Meters in 1 minute and them move 5 Tennis balls a distance of 4 meters in 1 minute in both situation I still onlyy moved in a speed of 4 m/s, so no. this would just mean I can hold a big dunking ton of Tennis balls at the same time, what would apply to my range of effect and LS
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Ok….now what happens if you move an infinite number of tennis balls a distance of 1 meter in 1 minute?

What does your speed come out to. I’m not giving you any trick question. I gave you the distance, and I gave you the time. The math goes from there.
 
Does an infinite number of galaxies take up infinite space, yes or no?
 
omegabronic said:
infinite universes=infinite galaxies=infinite places where these galaxies are=infinite distance, if the universe is infinite, then there is a galaxy at an infinite distance away since they are infinite
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We’re going around in circles at this point. We don’t even need to make it even that much complicated.

Move an infinite number of something any distance in any finite time and you get infinite speed. That’s it. Case closed.
 
JustANormalLemon said:
No, they moved all 1 meter in 1 minute, they stoped after one minute
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They all moved 1 meter in 1 minute?

Ok…that means an infinite number of them moved 1 meter in 1 minute.

which means ball #1 moved 1 meter, ball #2 moved 1 meter, ball #3 moved 1 mete, etc, etc, etc literally till infinity.

Now when you add up all those 1 meters together, how many meters do ya end up with? :)

The answer is an infinite amount of meters that was just traveled in 1 minute.

You deadass have to be trolling if you continue to say otherwise 🗿
 
omegabronic said:
infinite mass, infinite stuff would not stop moving if you trow it at a finite ammount of time, i am not sure how would that even work?
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It's fiction, you really tring to apply aceleration in a infinity number? are you saying that the galaxies alien X moved are still moving? that they never reched their destination? becuse this would also make It not infinity speed
 
Maitreya said:
The answer is an infinite amount of meters that was just traveled in 1 minute.
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That's relly not how that work, If you apply the traveled distance of each of them separetly you just made infinity travels of 1 meter

If you apply the distance to all tennis balls as if they where on infinit mass of them, they still only moved on meter
 
JustANormalLemon said:
It's fiction, you really tring to apply aceleration in a infinity number?
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yes i am, that is what infinite speed is

JustANormalLemon said:
are you saying that the galaxies alien X moved are still moving?
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no since he moved them in infinite speed

JustANormalLemon said:
that they never reched their destination? becuse this would also make It not infinity speed
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i said that they reached the destination, that is what makes infinite in speed
 
JustANormalLemon said:
That's relly not how that work, If you apply the traveled distance of each of them separetly you just made infinity travels of 1 meter

If you apply the distance to all tennis balls as if they where on infinit mass of them, they still only moved on meter
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aka they would be moving forever and ever and would never stop moving since there is an infinite amount of them
 
omegabronic said:
aka they would be moving forever and ever and would never stop moving since there is an infinite amount of them
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You guys are relly confunding how to make calcs here

You all impling that the infinity amount of things should have their distances ifinitly added, that's not the case at all, we can't just add the traveled value of them and say It's the speed, or we say that all the infinity tennis balls are one object with infinity mass or we say that the he applied tthe same speed into a infinity number of tennis balls

I will not discuss any more if yall keep saying that adding all the infinity objects traveled distance to say It's a infinity distance crossed makes sense

or you look them as one object of infinity mass or you look at them individually just having the same values applied
 
JustANormalLemon said:
That's relly not how that work, If you apply the traveled distance of each of them separetly you just made infinity travels of 1 meter

If you apply the distance to all tennis balls as if they where on infinit mass of them, they still only moved on meter
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That….REALLY is how it works my friend. An infinite travels of 1 meter= an infinite distance. Idk why you’re just not saying that. And if you do all that in 1 minute, that means your speed is infinite.

….but they’re not one infinite mass. They’re an infinite number of finite masses. And if you move an infinite number of something any finite distance….you get a sum of an infinite amount of distance traveled. You’re treating this as something it’s objectively not. Alien X didn’t move one infinite mass of a galaxy, he moved an infinite number of galaxies. So what you’re saying isn’t applicable here.

Picture yourself in a blank, white room that’s infinite distance wide (the universe in Ben 10). Now picture an infinite number of tennis balls behind you (the infinite amount of galaxies). If you move those infinite number of tennis balls 1 meter each, you get an infinite amount of distance traveled. And an infinite amount of distance traveled in any finite amount of time equals an infinite amount of speed.

This is….literally, objectively how it works. And how it’s demonstrated in Ben 10 because, once again, I reiterate. Alien X moved an infinite number of galaxies, he did not move one infinite mass of a galaxy.
 
JustANormalLemon said:
You guys are relly confunding how to make calcs here

You all impling that the infinity amount of things should have their distances ifinitly added, that's not the case at all, we can't just add the traveled value of them and say It's the speed, or we say that all the infinity tennis balls are one object with infinity mass or we say that the he applied tthe same speed into a infinity number of tennis balls

I will not discuss any more if yall keep saying that adding all the infinity objects traveled distance to say It's a infinity distance crossed makes sense

or you look them as one object of infinity mass or you look at them individually just having the same values applied
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think of it like this, there is an infinite amount of tennis balls to move, can you move all of them with finite speed?
 
Reiner said:
It's not usual infinite but just attack speed which is plausible as for his feat of sending infinite galaxies infinite distance away in short amountatime. I disagree.
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Until now, there has been no debunking of the post, and therefore, I hold the same reason for disagreeing with the thread.
 
JustANormalLemon said:
Ben 10 universe = X
Any distance traveled inside of It = Y
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I understand what you mean. You say that moving in an infinite space(X) is a finite distance (Y). And you said its not an infinite speed

But, an object that can move completely in infinite space will have traveled an infinite distance even if it travels a more limited distance. For eternity cannot be divided. No matter how many times you divide the infinity, the result is always infinity.

In this case, even the distance between these galaxies would be infinite. Because

Infinity/N=Infinity

Alien X moved galaxies a smaller infinite distance from the universe. But that didn't matter because the distance traveled was still infinite. (A smaller infinity than the universe, but still an infinity)
 
Georredannea15 said:
I understand what you mean. You say that moving in an infinite space(X) is a finite distance (Y). And you said its not an infinite speed
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But it was infinite distance, no? That's the point of the discussion, it was not in a finite distance, rather infinite distance.
 
ImmortalDread said:
But it was infinite distance, no? That's the point of the discussion, it was not in a finite distance, rather infinite distance.
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it is alien x moving an infinite amount of galaxies and placing all of them in the infinite universe and the infinite amount of spaces they would need to be
 
Indeed, if an infinite distance is covered, then it can be considered as infinite speed. The number of objects involved is inconsequential, as it is the distance that matters when time is not specified.
 
ImmortalDread said:
But it was infinite distance, no? That's the point of the discussion, it was not in a finite distance, rather infinite distance.
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No, the counter-argument being said here is to move only a finite distance in an infinite space/universe. But moving a galaxy in an infinite universe provides infinite attack speed. Because no matter how many times you divide infinity, the result is always infinite. (Also, for someone who has traveled an infinite distance, calculating time doesn't matter.)
 
ImmortalDread said:
But it was infinite distance, no? That's the point of the discussion, it was not in a finite distance, rather infinite distance.
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It honestly doesn’t matter. Because Ben moved an infinite number of galaxies across the universe. And moving an infinite number of something any finite distance still results in an infinite sum amount of distance traveled
 
After looking the maxwell profile from esrthbound I come here to say that I was wrong, we seen to indead considere that moving a infinity amount of stuff can be considered infinity speed

I personally disagree, but that's how we treath It here in the wiki by the looks of It
 
Wait, no, no. There is misunderstanding, so Alien X did not move galaxies in an infinite distance?
Maitreya said:
It honestly doesn’t matter. Because Ben moved an infinite number of galaxies across the universe. And moving an infinite number of something any finite distance still results in an infinite sum amount of distance traveled
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Is it necessary for an object to cover an infinite distance to achieve infinite speed if it has an infinite quantity or a quantity of two? Or else, would it require infinite energy to move such an object, but not necessarily to achieve infinite speed.

Wait, did he cover the infinite distance or not?
 
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