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Beefcake upgrade

The issue is Dragon is very variable. Some Dragons can efforlessly one shot other Dragons. That makes it harder to scale unless said Dragons directly interact.
 
wasnt there another dragon that had the exact same issue? i think he was called pluto or something, and he also had a high 7-A feat.
 
The actual math on my blog has not even been universally accepted yet, its not even been cleared up which method would be better (TLT1 who helped me told me that we should use fragmentation, while others say something else). So I think this thread should wait until we decide if the calc is even good.
 
Well Pluton's feat was heavily contested. But yeah he doesn't really scale to anyone. Both cause the Dragon issue and cause he's anime only.
 
do we normally use fragmentation or KE? we should use the one that used most on this site
 
Beyond21 said:
do we normally use fragmentation or KE? we should use the one that used most on this site
Well Radical said we should use Kinetic Energy, but on Discord TheLivingTribunal1 told me fragmentation was the best option, and I trust his judgement immensley.
 
However, UniteMyRice suggested we use a half-cone for my calc, which bumps it to 7-B, and at most 6-C for the second method
 
well beefcake was considered to have overwhelming power by saitama, and he's also a dragon level threat. so that should count for something
 
There's another panel, at the moment the punch was thrown. And I think we can believe what the guy is saying, I doubt he's blind so I'm confident to believe that punch just wiped out the town/city (varies in the translation.) Also, it looks like the rest of the damage was done via air pressure rather than his fist physically touching the rest of the city.
 
Beyond21 said:
well beefcake was considered to have overwhelming power by saitama, and he's also a dragon level threat. so that should count for something
Saitama only agreed that having an overwhelming power was boring not that this guy is strong.
 
I don't think it would yield very much. seeing as it was done with multiple punches; that there is no real way to calculate the holes depth aside from guesswork.
 
Well, he did destroy a town. But seeing as he definitely fragmented each building individually (along with any other structure outside of his range just with the air-pressure) then I think it could be calculated to be much higher than that. The anime version provides us with an angle where we would be able to calculate that damage, so I'd rather go with that just for leniancy's sake.
 
It's definitely the lighting which makes the anime hole look bigger, but they could have the same depth. Because there doesn't seem to be a way to measure how deep those holes go.
 
I have an obvious question:

Did the calc act as if Beefcake created this hole in one-shot? Because he obviously didn't. He punched Saitama numerous times until the hole was created.

So the result should probably be divided by the number of punches.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
I have an obvious question:
Did the calc act as if Beefcake created this hole in one-shot? Because he obviously didn't. He punched Saitama numerous times until the hole was created.

So the result should probably be divided by the number of punches.
Look above^ i think it around Large town to Small City level if you ask me.
 
Yeah the prior calculation had it as barrage energy rather than the energy of just one punch, and I don't like how he measured the depth either (by just calculating the depth via drawing a line from the top of the crater to where the darkness starts).
 
He didn't. Right to Left order.

However, since we count 6 punches on the manga panel, we can divide the results by 6.
 
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