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And ikki doesn't need to fight CQC against herYes, it isn't impressive skill because the Ikki clones were told to exploit obvious openings making them easy to trick
Bayo is far more skilled then that so that tactic fails
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And ikki doesn't need to fight CQC against herYes, it isn't impressive skill because the Ikki clones were told to exploit obvious openings making them easy to trick
Bayo is far more skilled then that so that tactic fails
The range on his profile says otherwiseAnd ikki doesn't need to fight CQC against her
Range doesn't apply to desperado passives. It's for his sword range. Desperado passives aren't range related.The range on his profile says otherwise
Who said i don't have feats? That was accepted in a CRT....Didnt we have this conversation already when Ikki fought Nocturne? With no feats to back it up you cannot argue that Desperado has infinite range
He does though.Plus Ikki doesnt even use Desperado
Oof, that's a bad one. You do know ikki has been in 2 serious fights since becoming a desperado and in 1 of them he used it twice right? And used it once in a joke fight.Ikki rarely ever uses desperado stuff ever
The fact that I cannot kudos a post more then once is a sin of this wikiTbf defeating someone 20x your speed with skill alone is the equivalent of beating a chess match where your opponent gets 20 turns before you have your first one.
Even if you can perfectly predict their every move while acting in the best way possible, you'd need to make each of your actions worth 20 times more than your opponent's... to stalemate them.
In order to win at such a disadvantage, you'd need your opponent to commit grave mistakes consistently to give you the opportunity to act your way and beat them, even if it involves minimal movement.
You sure you haven't?I feel like we're going around in circles and arguing semantics moreover I've literally seeing zero arguments that prevents Bayo from witch-timing and literally one-shotting (outside mental gymnastics about how "skill" works and what's OOC Vs IC).
Not really. It's just fiction. It's not PIS cus it's how things work for them.Yeah, it’s balls to the wall ridiculous. The definition of PIS, it at best scales to his reaction speed.
Thing is he has tons of hax to end the fight without engaging in cqc. Hell they can even nullify powers with desperado hax.The whole point that despite using the amp, they were in-fact not skilled at all, pretty much beelining in a single direction to stike. The most reasonable assumption is just the equivalent of aim-dodging, with Ikki placing his sword in a location where they accidentally cut themselves through predicting them.
Which would help again Bayonetta I agree, but that's still not quiet the same as matching her blow for blow.
<Contradicts all known logicI mean when it seemingly contradicts all known logic, external or internal, for no apparent reason other then plot, it is PIS.
Yeah but this guy is not skilled at just swords.Skill and hax are not one and the same. Effectively stabbing someone, and whatever other power he wishes to play off as a power, isn't the same as using his hax effectively. I am not saying he can't, just that the logic isn't exactly that strong for that one.
Not really.So basically the current argument for Ikki winning is him somehow knowing to immediately lead with desperado hax he not only never leads with but barely ever uses in combat in general
Before Bayo immediately Witch Times and kills him
How does he null Witch Time befor Bayo kills him?The argument is Bayo Witch Times and ikki nullifies or does any sort of desperado shit after that.
By thinking....How does he null Witch Time befor Bayo kills him?
When need be? Absolutely in character yes.Instantly using desperado hax with the thought at the start of the match
Sure
Earl.Asking why we're voting Bayo
Thread literally tells us why
@Schnee_One Before i continue debunking your post. Keep this in mind, i wouldn't want to repeat myself.And schnee that goes double for staff like you. You're FRA-ing reasons that don't exist my guy. Can this FRA clowning stop before i just drop the "not on the profile yet, so close the thread cus Ikki murder stomps".
You've set an extremely bad example as staff by turning what should have been a hypothetical fight in the future into a FRA squad. I hope this doesn't happen again.