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Bayonetta Discussion Thread

Takemikazuchi's description:
A giant hammer forged from breaking down the thunder god Takemikazuchi's divine sword, the Futsuno-mitama. Though harnessing adequate power as a sword, Rodin decided to rebuild it as a hammer to suit his personal tastes. One Swing will cause the heavens to split and the earth to tremble.

Bazillion's description:
Four guns created by an unknown super-civilization. Powered by an energy source known as Bazillionium, the deep crimson flash from the guns instantly break down the molecular bonds within its target. Able to discern the intent of its user, it is said that these strange, miraculous guns have the power to open a portal to another dimension. Thanks to Rodin, the guns have also gained demonic powers, making them an incredible threat to the denizens of Paradiso.
 
So what revisions ar we doing now? We still need to do the speed thing right?

Also just out of curiosity why werent feats lik the gods tanking the event that split th trinity of realities or bayonetta shattering the barrier around the gates of hell added to the profiles?
 
Split in realities would be much lower than their durability from Jubileus being able to possibly merge both timelines. Even still we don’t have much info on it, since we don’t know what caused it, can’t assume the other gods were there when it happened. They still scale for the stuff after it though

Bayonetta shattering the gates idk what that would quantify as, we can assume it would be like Low 2-C, since it was said to persist after the destruction of their multiverse. But I’m not sure

Revisions would be the speed stuff yeah, I kinda stopped looking for Aesir and other god tier AP buffs since the new game would probably be better at calcing that stuff. And I’ve been working on blazblue revisions so
 
The trinity of realities breaking apart has nothing to do with 2-C scaling at all. So your argument on the DMC thread doesn't work for 2-C.
 
Theglassman12 said:
The trinity of realities breaking apart has nothing to do with 2-C scaling at all. So your argument on the DMC thread doesn't work for 2-C.
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It does tho, hence why its listed as a durability feat

I already reported you after whatyou did yesterday just so youre aware
 
@Comicgyal Weekly kept claiming DMC's getting downgraded because rule changes on how creation and merging feats work on the DMC thread, and I'm telling him by his logic Bayonetta wouldn't have 2-C at all given the only thing that gives them 2-C is the possibility that they're merging two timelines. Something DMC has and a lot more to back up their ratings.
 
Comicgyal said:
Eh? What are you guys talking about
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Glass arguing that if DMC gets downgraded due to the stabilizationa nd creation feats standards revisions then bayonetta should gt downgraded as well despite bayonetta having actual scaling reasoning whereas DMC does not aside from a dubiously canon feat from Pluto
 
Congratulations, you ignored majority of the other feats that gave them the rating to begin with. Pluto's one out of the tens of other feats the series has, and we already explained how despite the new standards the feats for DMC still applies since they check off the requirements.
 
Look, idk anything about what's going on with these stabilization standards, but Jubileus tanking the FA wouldn't serve as 2-C dura since the timeline split only came from that Young Cereza time travelling antics.
 
Ohhhh okay. Don’t know too much about DMC, Bayos merging feats are legit though so I dunno about anything else.

Regardless try not to debate about that here too guys, DMC and Bayonetta get related too much, despite their verses being very different 😔
 
Theglassman12 said:
Congratulations, you ignored majority of the other feats that gave them the rating to begin with. Pluto's one out of the tens of other feats the series has, and we already explained how despite the new standards the feats for DMC still applies since they check off the requirements.
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After talking with the DMC revison team all but th Pluto feat have been thoroughly debunked by them with multi-paragraph cited arguments for each feat
 
@Comicgyal I agree that the merging feat is legit, hell that is one of the requirements for getting tier 2 so I'm not arguing against that, I'm arguing against whatever standard Weekly is claiming would downgrade bayonetta, which last time I checked isn't the standard.

Low 2-C is affecting the entire space time continuum, or timelines. multiple normal universes don't really count for tier 2, as without further context that they have their own space time, they'd just upscale the 3-A ratings.
 
Wasn't there a thread seeking to revise and downgrade a crap ton of tier 2 characters for several characters having "tier 2" feats that dont actually show a full spacetime continum being affected, but got pushed back due to multiple large wiki projects going on at the time?

Bayo wouldn't be affected though since the OP of that thread specifically stated that verses that have their feats directly mentioning timelines would be safe.
 
Theglassman12 said:
@Comicgyal I agree that the merging feat is legit, hell that is one of the requirements for getting tier 2 so I'm not arguing against that, I'm arguing against whatever standard Weekly is claiming would downgrade bayonetta, which last time I checked isn't the standard.

Low 2-C is affecting the entire space time continuum, or timelines. multiple normal universes don't really count for tier 2, as without further context that they have their own space time, they'd just upscale the 3-A ratings.
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Iliterlaly linked th standards as well as he threads thy wre established plus one of the guys on the DMC thread talked to people from those threads and they agreed with me, you need to read u on our standards if you think that whatim saying is wrong
 
@Comicgyal if you're affecting/creating/destroying an entire space time continuum with that universe then yes that's Low 2-C.

@WeeklyBattles ok, the standards you linked changed absolutely nothing because the feats are checked off with the new standard in mind. Until you make the CRT and get the support to downgrade DMC, you're not gonna convince anyone like you claimed for the longest time Bayonetta's getting upgraded to 2-C and did nothing until Comicgyal of all people had to do it herself.
 
Theglassman12 said:
@WeeklyBattles ok, the standards you linked changed absolutely nothing because the feats are checked off with the new standard in mind. Until you make the CRT and get the support to downgrade DMC, you're not gonna convince anyone like you claimed for the longest time Bayonetta's getting upgraded to 2-C and did nothing until Comicgyal of all people had to do it herself.
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And it will be made. Dont know why youre getting so defensive about all of this. If anyone other than me were saying this you wouldnt give a shit but beacuse of your grudge against me you feel the need to attack me over nothing, hence why i reported you
 
You "reporting me" isn't gonna add up since not many people are buying your claims.

I'm mostly sick and tired of Weekly here constantly claiming a lot of things he never once follows through, this is nothing new since you do this with any verse you like or dislike and more often than not you never follow through with your claim. So either actually follow through with the supposed downgrades or upgrades you constantly say every time you get the chance, or stop mentioning them at all because you're just drawing attention for the sake of drawing attention and nothing more.
 
Theglassman12 said:
You "reporting me" isn't gonna add up since not many people are buying your claims.

I'm mostly sick and tired of Weekly here constantly claiming a lot of things he never once follows through, this is nothing new since you do this with any verse you like or dislike and more often than not you never follow through with your claim. So either actually follow through with the supposed downgrades or upgrades you constantly say every time you get the chance, or stop mentioning them at all because you're just drawing attention for the sake of drawing attention and nothing more.
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So basically personal opinion based on me not doing things how and when you want them done and not an actual legitimate reason, good to know
 
Regardless of the reason, I’m sure the both of you are very responsible and reasonable adults (?) if not close to it. There’s no reason for the two of you to constantly argue, when all it does is clog threads, and make the both of you look childish. I suggest just getting over it, or just ignoring each other. This site is supposed to be an occasional thing anyways.
 
This is something a lot of people have issues with on you Weekly, not just me, if you're refusing to admit that then whatever, until you post the DMC downgrades on this wiki whatever you have in your discord group is irrelevant. Anyways I've said all I need to say. No need derailing this thread any further.
 
Yeah on that note I have seen that a lot, when I first started Bayonetta stuff I was told Weekly that you always said you were posting upgrades, but took years to do so and it was annoying. Not saying to rush anything you do, but it would probably be wise not to promise anything until you’re certain it’s coming soon.
 
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