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Post-Training Joseph VS Base Batman
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Batman VS Joseph Joestar
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XSOULOFCINDERX
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Doesn't Batman have an absurd Skill and Experience advantage over Joseph? What's the AP Difference?
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Batman scales to fighting those who can harm him, which is 1.7 Tons.
Joseph scales from being much stronger than his pre-Hamon training self, being able to fight Esidisi and Wamuu and later even defeating both of them. Both of which are far stronger than any vampire or zombie known in the series which includes Dio Brando, who he himself in turn is far superior to Tarkus who did this feat.
I'm not good with values like that (more like how to translate it to simplir values) but seems like Joseph runs off a scaling chain here. Especially since this is his Post-Training self being used here.
DK what the AP diff is.
Joseph scales from being much stronger than his pre-Hamon training self, being able to fight Esidisi and Wamuu and later even defeating both of them. Both of which are far stronger than any vampire or zombie known in the series which includes Dio Brando, who he himself in turn is far superior to Tarkus who did this feat.
I'm not good with values like that (more like how to translate it to simplir values) but seems like Joseph runs off a scaling chain here. Especially since this is his Post-Training self being used here.
DK what the AP diff is.
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I still think Batman has more skill and experience than Joseph which does help. Not to mention whatever crazy thing he pulls out of his utility belt.
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Joseph defeated guys who have thousands of years of fighting experience. He can outsmart extraordinary geniuses. Joseph also has Analytical Prediction which will be very very usefull here.
He's very versatile with Hamon, can block and reflect projectiles. He also has Durability Negation and some degree of healing via Hamon.
He's very versatile with Hamon, can block and reflect projectiles. He also has Durability Negation and some degree of healing via Hamon.
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>He's very versatile with Hamon, can block and reflect projectiles. He also has Durability Negation and some degree of healing via Hamon.
He can outright induce organ failure or ohko if hamon travels through a target and hits their head/heart as well. Joseph has quite a bit of hax as well and versatility (given he should know everything Jonathan, Will, Caesar, Lisa Lisa and Straizo knew due to his extensive training from lisa lisa, who was in turned trained and taught all that Straio had), though he doesnt use it often, probably due to his opponents that he fought simply not being effected by things like that, although there's a chance that he didnt use it because of his character, hard to say, we dont know or got enough information to say for absolutely certain.
He can outright induce organ failure or ohko if hamon travels through a target and hits their head/heart as well. Joseph has quite a bit of hax as well and versatility (given he should know everything Jonathan, Will, Caesar, Lisa Lisa and Straizo knew due to his extensive training from lisa lisa, who was in turned trained and taught all that Straio had), though he doesnt use it often, probably due to his opponents that he fought simply not being effected by things like that, although there's a chance that he didnt use it because of his character, hard to say, we dont know or got enough information to say for absolutely certain.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Bat's suit blocked waves such as hamon, but I don't think we can assume it does. Bats is more skilled but JoJo should manage to land at least one hit more often than not in and knock him out with that. Voting him.
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Gonna also vote Joseph. The Hamon gives him a free KO should he be able to land a hit, so it would only be a matter of time before JoJo got that opportunity.
So, in short, JoJo FRA
So, in short, JoJo FRA
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Batman also outskills people with thousands of years of experience iirc
And im pretty sure he is more skilled.
Ill wait before voting but im leaning toward Batman here.
Edit: Oh this is Post-Flashpoint.. That makes this a lot closer. But im still going to wait.
And im pretty sure he is more skilled.
Ill wait before voting but im leaning toward Batman here.
Edit: Oh this is Post-Flashpoint.. That makes this a lot closer. But im still going to wait.
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Batman FRA
Tonygameman
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Batman for reasons above.
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Yes, did you read the whole thread?
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Hey, how does Batman have an edge in AP?
Yes Batman feat is higher than Tarkus's feat but the point is Jonathan easily defeat Trakus
Jonathan = Dio Brando >= vampire Straizo =< Joseph before training
And Joseph became much stronger after this training That is why Joseph is supposed to have the advantage in AP
Yes Batman feat is higher than Tarkus's feat but the point is Jonathan easily defeat Trakus
Jonathan = Dio Brando >= vampire Straizo =< Joseph before training
And Joseph became much stronger after this training That is why Joseph is supposed to have the advantage in AP
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Tarkus's feat was calculated as 0.756 tons of TNT
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Gwynbleiddd/JJBA_Hill_Splitting_Calc
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Gwynbleiddd/JJBA_Hill_Splitting_Calc
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Joseph is an unexpected person who has outsmart and outskill people stronger than him with thousands of years of experience and intelligence in the level of Extraordinary Genius, the point is that Batman did the same thing many times he outsmart and outskill strong people with much experience and intelligence
The AP is also close
This fight is really close, It is hard to tell the winner Both are unexpected
The AP is also close
This fight is really close, It is hard to tell the winner Both are unexpected
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I'm actually not too sure anymore. I forget how ridiculous Bats's Intelligence is.
I'll keep my vote back for now.
I'll keep my vote back for now.
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Doesnt Joseph have applicable hax on his side though? Hamon is gonna work just fine if Batman doesnt have prep to adapt to it.
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SBA, so the maximum of whoever has the highest range, but no more than 4km.
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I dunno, if Batman leads with some KO gas or something like that Joseph might be defeated.
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Eh, Batman's should be near instant, but I agree he wouldn't lead with it, Joseph looks like a random street punk, the sort Batman can mow down without an itch.
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That's true, he is a match for Joseph's bullshitting abilities, still doubt he'd immediately go for the big guns.
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I'm leaning towards Batman at this point, but I see no significant advantage anymore for either that makes it decisive.
