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Base Killua hypersonic+ calc
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Idk how to do that
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Do you have an account? If you do, link it
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Acc for what?
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Oh yea I do have an acc for it
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Ima try to link it
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This is very outliersh for Nenless characters, Gon himself only acheived this kind of speed during Greed Island.
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Im still confused on how it’s an outlier it was when we first saw killua
GodlyCharmander
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What? This is exactly why it's an outlier.
Greed Island Gon is monstrously faster and stronger than Nenless Killua is, and only then he could perform this kind of feat.
Greed Island Gon is monstrously faster and stronger than Nenless Killua is, and only then he could perform this kind of feat.
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not tryna sound like a rat but why wouldn’t it upscale gon?if you are inferring to the calc that puts him at hypersonic I get how it puts him at hypersonic but How would that disprove the hypersonic+ meta I made
GodlyCharmander
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No.
This is a Nenless Killua, far weaker than literally anything after Heaven's Arena, and you're telling me that, instead of redeeming Killua's feat as an outlier since he shouldn't be capable of being faster than Greed Island Gon, we should just forcefully upscale a Gon who was just barely that speed, just so that Killua's Feat isn't contradictory to the Scaling?
Yeah, how about no?
This is a Nenless Killua, far weaker than literally anything after Heaven's Arena, and you're telling me that, instead of redeeming Killua's feat as an outlier since he shouldn't be capable of being faster than Greed Island Gon, we should just forcefully upscale a Gon who was just barely that speed, just so that Killua's Feat isn't contradictory to the Scaling?
Yeah, how about no?
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Killua family does these kind of things, also, yeah, its Nenless Killua, so, Nen Killua just scales higher
GodlyCharmander
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Anyway, your calc is wrong in the first place, what the hell was that 0.00058s timeframe.
You should use either 0.08s, or 0.013s for blitzing human reaction, or perception.
Leading to: 3,2603/0,08 = 40,75375m/s, just barely Subsonic
or 3,2603/0,013 = 250,79230769230m/s, Subsonic+
You should use either 0.08s, or 0.013s for blitzing human reaction, or perception.
Leading to: 3,2603/0,08 = 40,75375m/s, just barely Subsonic
or 3,2603/0,013 = 250,79230769230m/s, Subsonic+
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Yeah, then the feat cannot be Hypersonic, the calc is wrong, yeah
GodlyCharmander
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That's irrelevant to the point I'm making
Nen Killua and Gon were just BARELY reaching that speed, and they already were FAR above Nenless Killua.
If the feat WERE Hypersonic, which it absolutely wasn't, it would have been an outlier.
Yorkshin Characters were Supersonic, stop it
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Does they have statements that they cant reach these speeds? if not, it just means that Nen Killua and Gon upscales to it
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What? That's not how Scaling works
Much, MUCH faster characters have lower speed feats than this Nenless, and weak-ass Killua.
That's enough to rule it as an outlier.
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That is, hypothetically, if we interpret it as Hypersonic.
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thats exactly how scaling works, stronger characters > weaker characters, faster characters > slower characters, so, if a character can match Nen Killua, it means that he is way faster than Nenless killua that peformed the feat
the feat is not relevant. they upscale to it, so, they are way faster than weakass nenless killua
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GodlyCharmander
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Let's get this straight.
So, the verse before greed island and Chimera Ant had CONSISTENT Supersonic and Low Tier Hypersonic speed feats at characters doing their best.
So, instead of considering the MULTIPLE examples of lower speed, we take this one feat from Killua, approaching Cheetu's Casual Speed, and upscale everyone from it instead of considering it the outlier in the middle of dozen of far lower examples?
Did I get this right?
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Like to see how a nenless kilua is faster than cheetu, when a nen and much faster kilua won't even perceive him
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it just makes cheetu >> nenless killua
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Oh no I think you are misunderstanding this, calm down and read again, what it implies if nenless kilua get the rating is
Nenless kilua >>>> cheetu >>>> nen kilua
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Nah. Nenless Killua has the feat, so, even if Nen Killua doesnt have others feats, he still scales above Nenless Killua, so, Cheetu >> Nen Killua >> Nenless Killua feat
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You are so confused.
What about cheetu feats and every other feat that says its an outlier and what about the fact that the calc is wrong??
Get some sleep
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I am def not.
1-The others cheetu feats doesnt matter, because Cheetu scales above Nenless Killua feat
2-As I said previously, the calc is wrong and cannot be used.
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yeah, the calc is wrong anyways
GodlyCharmander
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He needs some sleep.
Don't even bother.
See this reply to which he said yes:
He basically denies the very concept of Outlier, and thinks that we should just upscale everyone based on a feat that's much higher than other feats with their best performance.
"All the other feats are irrelevant, this one, for... some reason, has priority over them"
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Either that, or he's just trolling
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Yeah, the result itself is actually Subsonic. We're just arguing semantics, and the hypothetical scenario where the calculation was correct.
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Ah, I don’t do woodchuck arguments very well, but I’ll play along.
If this ‘were true, and facts,’ which is most definitely is not.
The entire verse would need a massive rehaul, not just a couple characters, but quite literally almost the entire verse.
Having Hypersonic+ Killua prior to even learning Nen, which he gained a massive boost from physically, would then have him equal to Netero’s Hypersonic+ as waaaaay to low, considering he’s leagues, literally, above Pre-Nen Killua.
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That's true for Post-Nen Killua as well, if we don't consider Godspeed.
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Btw, I'm trying to get Netero to Massively Hypersonic via some feats he's done. For some reason, even though he overwhelmed Pitou, who has a MHS feat linked in the Hunter x Hunter's page, he's not rated as MHS
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I still don’t know how I feel about MHS HxH, I’m not too sold on Killua’s Electricity Manipulation being actual Lightning speed. Mainly cause I’ve never ventured too far into it myself, and I’ve yet to see a convincing argument.
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I see. Netero's MHS Feat against Pitou is definitely the most solid feat there, it uses the information directly given by the manga to reach the result.
Killua's lightning has always had some sort of debate around it.
I think, ultimately, it was agreed that:
- It has the properties of electricity
- It originally came from a natural source (a taser/plus Killua needs real electricity to recharge)
- It has more than enough potency to match real lightning (thus, having enough drift speed)
Which would be enough, but on top of that, we have the fact that no one in the verse ever reacted to it, which makes it consistent.
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