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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Greatgorilangaqil
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Q: Did Masaki and Kanae go to the Soul Society? Also, where do Quincies go when they pass away?
Kubo: Deceased Quincy go to a different place.
Q: Due to the Hogyoku, Aizen evolved into things like a butterfly and a skull-like monster claiming that he "surpassed Hollows and Shinigami" and had become "transcendent", while also saying that Ichigo had "temporarily broken the barrier between Shinigami and Hollow and become transcendent". In other words, does that mean that the form Aizen had taken is a result of Hollowfication?
Kubo: The "transcendent" status that Aizen is referring to is that of surpassing the boundary of the soul, so Ichigo and Aizen both underwent different forms of "transcendence".
Kubo: Deceased Quincy go to a different place.
Q: Due to the Hogyoku, Aizen evolved into things like a butterfly and a skull-like monster claiming that he "surpassed Hollows and Shinigami" and had become "transcendent", while also saying that Ichigo had "temporarily broken the barrier between Shinigami and Hollow and become transcendent". In other words, does that mean that the form Aizen had taken is a result of Hollowfication?
Kubo: The "transcendent" status that Aizen is referring to is that of surpassing the boundary of the soul, so Ichigo and Aizen both underwent different forms of "transcendence".
EldemadeDityjon
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I always wondered this. So I guess it's most likely hell?
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Don’t they go to Yhwach upon death? I thought we saw souls coming back to Yhwach in his battle with Ichibei? Unless it only applies to the souls he touches. But “somewhere” else is a nice concept to explore later on. It doesn’t need to be Hell it could be their own realm.
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28, after Reio's Reiatsu gets released from the seal.
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魂の境界を超えることを指して「超越者」と言っているので、
一護と藍染は形の異なる「超越者」です。
“Since the act of exceeding the boundary of the soul is referred to as a ‘transcendent being,’ Ichigo and Aizen are ‘transcendent beings’ with different forms.”
1st. Key point, the sentence is written in present tense, not past, according to Kubo they are still transcendent being now.
2nd. Kubo answered this question without negating the existence of transcendence concept, meaning he never dropped the concept.
3rd. He brought it back again in the Klub Outside summary of episode, saying Aizen was displaying trascendence presence and spiritual pressure.
4th. Kubo conceded that he wrote himself the datebooks, meaning they are as valuable as manga, and those have quite lot of explanations on transcendence, different dimensions, not feeling the power, being above everyone else etc.
魂の境界を超えることを指して「超越者」と言っているので、
一護と藍染は形の異なる「超越者」です。
“Since the act of exceeding the boundary of the soul is referred to as a ‘transcendent being,’ Ichigo and Aizen are ‘transcendent beings’ with different forms.”
1st. Key point, the sentence is written in present tense, not past, according to Kubo they are still transcendent being now.
2nd. Kubo answered this question without negating the existence of transcendence concept, meaning he never dropped the concept.
3rd. He brought it back again in the Klub Outside summary of episode, saying Aizen was displaying trascendence presence and spiritual pressure.
4th. Kubo conceded that he wrote himself the datebooks, meaning they are as valuable as manga, and those have quite lot of explanations on transcendence, different dimensions, not feeling the power, being above everyone else etc.
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Nah Masaki be looking up at Ichigo downIt’s probably not hell, otherwise why not say it, but where they go? ain’t no more free space in the cosmology
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People thinking transcendence got abandoned still baffle me icl
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Nah, she just fate haxed him something that he has no answer to.
Also, fate > probability.
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Her fate manipulation description is different. Gerard wasn’t frozen fo death.
All other had some kinda connection with how the were defeated by senjumaru. Not gerard.
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I'm not a fan of the argument that she used fate hax; it's impossible to prove.
Based on true concrete evidence, there is no fate hax involved with senjumaru's bankai
IIRC, I had some other piece of concrete evidence for this. In the databook written as a recap for the TYBW, this is also stressed in detail.
If ya'll remind me some time this weekend, I can send it here for ya'll to see. I left all the databooks home, but I have the evidence on discord.
In general though, this shit about the higher level of power for the Reio-level beings is very much the correct interpretation
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Honestly fate manipulation can stay. Since it's also evident. I just find it contradictory in gerard's case. Ishida's case is also questionable since we haven’t seen how his fate might play.
Lillie one seems more befitting as attack reflection than damage transferal. That's how he was defeated.
I think gerard's one just should be treated differently as how it is listed. Gerard had miracle all along.
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Btw if Ichibei were to fight someone, is his first moves just sword match?
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Might whip out one of his secret hados
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Pretty much.
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Nah, his first move is bitchslapping the opponent away with his big hands.
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Oh alright cause a lot of people here says that Ichibei just spam ichimonji as first move
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Well it's because 4-A Ichibei does that. Base Ichibei uses the handsOh alright cause a lot of people here says that Ichibei just spam ichimonji as first move
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Oh kinda like Senjumaru straight up do bankai as first move when she gets powered up
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0% chance this is the case.
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Do you think the other societies will be shinigami or witch related?
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There's nothing to manage in the poles it's all wildlife and a few scientists.
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Btw does Yhwach should have resist to extrasensory perception? Since he's a transcendent being like Ichigo and Aizen
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Nah, it ain't the hands he's gonna slap people with
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lol.
The north and south soul societies don't necessarily have to be in the poles, but I hadn't thought about how if they were, they wouldn't have a human world adjacent to them like that.
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Aren't the branches more so in like with East and West ideologies or whatever than poles
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The world is divided into the Western and Eastern worlds (like it or not). It’s not about east, west, north, and south; it’s about civilization, not geography. Like how Eastern Soul Society is all about Shinigami and Asian folklore, while Western Soul Society has classic witches and dragons from Western literature and folklore, with names inspired by it. There’s not gonna be any north or south.
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What I said but smarter
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Hear me out though: Quincy Penguins
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Btw since bleach is gonna be 2-C, does their mind/soul resists becomes 4D in potency since the more stronger you get, the more powerful your mind/soul is?
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Arc probably won't argue for 2-C in his thread as he doesn't believe the evidence for it, as of the moment, is all that concrete. However, he will probably argue for Low 2-C via the Ichibe feat / mid-episode information cards about himself, and the feat in question.
As for your question, assuming that Low 2-C does get passed: anyone who scales should be 4-D as they're explicitly powered by it, and enhanced further when additional energy is provided. If that energy is 4-D, everything constitutionally tied with that energy should also be 4-D without a blatant disconnect between the two.
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Didn't @ReaperAndBlues and @Hellscream mentioned that regarding the balance of the souls being the reason of the spacetimes destruction is debunked in the anime?
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I'm not talking about that feat as Arc isn't mentioning it in his AP revision thread. He wishes for the anime to reach that point in the story before tackling that feat again.
Outside of that, yes. In the anime, it pretty explicitly debunks the argument that Soul King's lack of control over the souls was the thing that was primarily causing the destruction of the realms. I don't recall the exact episode number where this occurred, but if you search for the episode that deals with Soul King's death and the resulting collapse it will be there. Kisuke is the one who makes the statement, if that helps at all.
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