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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

It's the Wandenreich, but the image in the sky seems to be mirrored:
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I have no idea why it will appear in the sky, as at that point it no longer existed.
damn, it is the same
 
So, y'all remember when that city appeared in the WotL sky? This right here:
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/935725170209996860/1335329336084926644/image.png?ex=679fc5da&is=679e745a&hm=40f8855b2e921a62795f9405f5c79b67d70c5c3d6b997a9209e955954a6346aa&

What do y'all think this is? It can't be Seireitei, looks nothing this this:
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/935725170209996860/1335329776482783252/IMG_7616.jpg?ex=679fc643&is=679e74c3&hm=5fb54882baad0eacd2065cb2e3cdf78dca1330468633d3f7f3135302f83a4390&

I don't think it's the Licht Reich either, since while the sprawling structures have a similar pattern, there's no giant rectangle:
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/935725170209996860/1335329499088162970/about-the-anachronistic-design-of-the-lichtreich-v0-nx22j4e44iec1.webp?ex=679fc601&is=679e7481&hm=ad9d3c525bcfee1a5561084eaff32ab41fddbf42c47d3e2527a5b5d14d0c812c&

Personally, I think maybe it's either the city he grew up in during the old world pre-split, or even maybe it's what he desires to remake the world into (credits to Deceived), or perhaps it's a bit of both. Maybe it shares similarities to the Licht Reich because Yhwach built his country in the image of his old home when the Reio still lived. 100% I bet we will get expansions on this in cour 4, but I'm curious what fan theories y'all are rocking.
I can't open the image, when you can, could you send it again or a reference so I can see it?
 
This post made in Reddit grasped my attention after I uncovered it, as others who views it are either agree or accepted the clarification made by this person. Therefore, I required clarification in here before believing him.
Here.
 
Q: Did Masaki and Kanae go to the Soul Society? Also, where do Quincies go when they pass away?
Kubo: Deceased Quincy go to a different place.

Q: Due to the Hogyoku, Aizen evolved into things like a butterfly and a skull-like monster claiming that he "surpassed Hollows and Shinigami" and had become "transcendent", while also saying that Ichigo had "temporarily broken the barrier between Shinigami and Hollow and become transcendent". In other words, does that mean that the form Aizen had taken is a result of Hollowfication?
Kubo: The "transcendent" status that Aizen is referring to is that of surpassing the boundary of the soul, so Ichigo and Aizen both underwent different forms of "transcendence".
 
I always wondered this. So I guess it's most likely hell?
Don’t they go to Yhwach upon death? I thought we saw souls coming back to Yhwach in his battle with Ichibei? Unless it only applies to the souls he touches. But “somewhere” else is a nice concept to explore later on. It doesn’t need to be Hell it could be their own realm.
 
It’s probably not hell, otherwise why not say it, but where they go? ain’t no more free space in the cosmology 😭
 
Another user on Reddit:

魂の境界を超えることを指して「超越者」と言っているので、
一護と藍染は形の異なる「超越者」です。

“Since the act of exceeding the boundary of the soul is referred to as a ‘transcendent being,’ Ichigo and Aizen are ‘transcendent beings’ with different forms.”


1st. Key point, the sentence is written in present tense, not past, according to Kubo they are still transcendent being now.

2nd. Kubo answered this question without negating the existence of transcendence concept, meaning he never dropped the concept.

3rd. He brought it back again in the Klub Outside summary of episode, saying Aizen was displaying trascendence presence and spiritual pressure.

4th. Kubo conceded that he wrote himself the datebooks, meaning they are as valuable as manga, and those have quite lot of explanations on transcendence, different dimensions, not feeling the power, being above everyone else etc.
 
Another user on Reddit:

魂の境界を超えることを指して「超越者」と言っているので、
一護と藍染は形の異なる「超越者」です。

“Since the act of exceeding the boundary of the soul is referred to as a ‘transcendent being,’ Ichigo and Aizen are ‘transcendent beings’ with different forms.”


1st. Key point, the sentence is written in present tense, not past, according to Kubo they are still transcendent being now.

2nd. Kubo answered this question without negating the existence of transcendence concept, meaning he never dropped the concept.

3rd. He brought it back again in the Klub Outside summary of episode, saying Aizen was displaying trascendence presence and spiritual pressure.

4th. Kubo conceded that he wrote himself the datebooks, meaning they are as valuable as manga, and those have quite lot of explanations on transcendence, different dimensions, not feeling the power, being above everyone else etc.
People thinking transcendence got abandoned still baffle me icl
 
We have seen freezing failed to destroy gerard. He regenerated through miracle.

Can senjumaru have probability negation for that.
 
Nah, she just fate haxed him something that he has no answer to.
Also, fate > probability.
Her fate manipulation description is different. Gerard wasn’t frozen fo death.
All other had some kinda connection with how the were defeated by senjumaru. Not gerard.
 
Nah, she just fate haxed him something that he has no answer to.
Also, fate > probability.
I'm not a fan of the argument that she used fate hax; it's impossible to prove.

Based on true concrete evidence, there is no fate hax involved with senjumaru's bankai

Another user on Reddit:

魂の境界を超えることを指して「超越者」と言っているので、
一護と藍染は形の異なる「超越者」です。

“Since the act of exceeding the boundary of the soul is referred to as a ‘transcendent being,’ Ichigo and Aizen are ‘transcendent beings’ with different forms.”


1st. Key point, the sentence is written in present tense, not past, according to Kubo they are still transcendent being now.

2nd. Kubo answered this question without negating the existence of transcendence concept, meaning he never dropped the concept.

3rd. He brought it back again in the Klub Outside summary of episode, saying Aizen was displaying trascendence presence and spiritual pressure.

4th. Kubo conceded that he wrote himself the datebooks, meaning they are as valuable as manga, and those have quite lot of explanations on transcendence, different dimensions, not feeling the power, being above everyone else etc.
IIRC, I had some other piece of concrete evidence for this. In the databook written as a recap for the TYBW, this is also stressed in detail.

If ya'll remind me some time this weekend, I can send it here for ya'll to see. I left all the databooks home, but I have the evidence on discord.
In general though, this shit about the higher level of power for the Reio-level beings is very much the correct interpretation
 
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I'm not a fan of the argument that she used fate hax; it's impossible to prove.
Honestly fate manipulation can stay. Since it's also evident. I just find it contradictory in gerard's case. Ishida's case is also questionable since we haven’t seen how his fate might play.
Lillie one seems more befitting as attack reflection than damage transferal. That's how he was defeated.

I think gerard's one just should be treated differently as how it is listed. Gerard had miracle all along.
 
Pretty much.
Oh alright cause a lot of people here says that Ichibei just spam ichimonji as first move

 
Oh alright cause a lot of people here says that Ichibei just spam ichimonji as first move

Well it's because 4-A Ichibei does that. Base Ichibei uses the hands
 
Soul Society East Branch: Shinigami, Fullbringers
Soul Society West Branch: Witches, Dragonclads
Soul Society North Branch: ?
Soul Society South Branch: ?
Hueco Mundo: Hollows

Quincy to to either North or South Branch?
 
Isn’t the consensus that Gerard couldn’t use the Miracle In the SKP?
He didn’t use it even against Oetsu that just slashed him.
 
There's nothing to manage in the poles it's all wildlife and a few scientists.
lol.

The north and south soul societies don't necessarily have to be in the poles, but I hadn't thought about how if they were, they wouldn't have a human world adjacent to them like that.
 
The world is divided into the Western and Eastern worlds (like it or not). It’s not about east, west, north, and south; it’s about civilization, not geography. Like how Eastern Soul Society is all about Shinigami and Asian folklore, while Western Soul Society has classic witches and dragons from Western literature and folklore, with names inspired by it. There’s not gonna be any north or south.
 
The world is divided into the Western and Eastern worlds (like it or not). It’s not about east, west, north, and south; it’s about civilization, not geography. Like how Eastern Soul Society is all about Shinigami and Asian folklore, while Western Soul Society has classic witches and dragons from Western literature and folklore, with names inspired by it. There’s not gonna be any north or south.
What I said but smarter
 
Btw since bleach is gonna be 2-C, does their mind/soul resists becomes 4D in potency since the more stronger you get, the more powerful your mind/soul is?
 
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