BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Gremmys opening moves is to inta kill someone (the captains), Erase someone (Guenal) and transmute the enemy (turning bones into cookies)

 

[Hellscream]

It isn't above EE, and about erasing non-existent entities he probably can but I don't think he can do anything to someone who hides in the void or who hides some parts of himself in the void.
Why do we even count him not thinking about his fictional character as erasure? Does him also not thinking about his fictional body also count as Existence Erasure?

Uhh it is above EE, since his EE is capable of erasing nonexistent entities which normal EE can't do.
It's literally straightforward.

We have EE on his profile, because his "imagination" turns into reality, and whether it's a part of his imagination or not, his imaginary powers affect reality just the same way, as it does to things that he made real, by imagining it.

The bigger assumption would be, why would his creations be an exception when he's shown to insta death hax characters that are not objects of his imagination, or is capable of turning their bones into cookies etc.

 

[Johner2133451]

Uhh it is above EE, since his EE is capable of erasing nonexistent entities which normal EE can't do.
It's literally straightforward.

We have EE on his profile, because his "imagination" is real, and whether it's a part of his imagination or not, his imaginary powers affect reality just the same way, as it does to things that he made real, by imagining it.

The bigger assumption would be, why would his creations be an exception when he's shown to insta death hax characters that are not objects of his imagination, or is capable of turning their bones into cookies etc.

Btw if Gremmy decides to use his nonexistence EE on a character with mid-godly regen, would it be effective? Since technically the person with mid godly regen still exists but just in a nonexistence state

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

Uhh it is above EE, since his EE is capable of erasing nonexistent entities which normal EE can't do.
It's literally straightforward.

We have EE on his profile, because his "imagination" turns into reality, and whether it's a part of his imagination or not, his imaginary powers affect reality just the same way, as it does to things that he made real, by imagining it.

The bigger assumption would be, why would his creations be an exception when he's shown to insta death hax characters that are not objects of his imagination, or is capable of turning their bones into cookies etc.

No, it is not, above EE, it is just different from a normal EE, Grammy stated that he can't imagine Lee's "future'' anymore(either fate manip or time erasure of his fictional character), which Lee doesn't have any resistance.
I asked you if Grammy not thinking about his body count as EE and i am still waiting for the answer

Just cause someone has an ability on his profile doesn't mean it's true.

 

[Adam1396]

Is it true that Acausality type 4 doesn’t grant automatic resistance to some hax anymore? Rather the resistance is speicic based on feats.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Is it true that Acausality type 4 doesn’t grant automatic resistance to some hax anymore? Rather the resistance is speicic based on feats.

Yes. Acasuality type 4's resistances need feats and it doesn't give all of it's abilities anymore

 

[Adam1396]

Yes. Acasuality type 4's resistances need feats and it doesn't give all of it's abilities anymore

Is the acausality page ouydates then?

 

[Deceived3596]

No, it is not, above EE, it is just different from a normal EE

You're just objectively incorrect on this. Nonexistent Erasure is you erasing someone beyond the general Binary of Existence and Nonexistence, as you're erasing someone beyond simple nonexistence itself, rather than just merely reducing them to nonexistence like how Existence Erasure does.

The differences in degrees of Nonexistence being achieved is what makes it qualitatively superior to regular Existence Erasure.

 

[Hellscream]

No, it is not, above EE, it is just different from a normal EE, Grammy stated that he can't imagine Lee's "future'' anymore(either fate manip or time erasure of his fictional character), which Lee doesn't have any resistance.
I asked you if Grammy not thinking about his body count as EE and i am still waiting for the answer

Just cause someone has an ability on his profile doesn't mean it's true.

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

You're just objectively incorrect on this. Nonexistent Erasure is you erasing someone beyond the general Binary of Existence and Nonexistence, as you're erasing someone beyond simple nonexistence itself, rather than just merely reducing them to nonexistence like how Existence Erasure does.

The differences in degrees of Nonexistence being achieved is what makes it qualitatively superior to regular Existence Erasure.

What you say isn't incorrect but having N-E doesn't mean you can delete someone who resists EE.
Also, I was talking under the context of Grammy feat and you just took it out of context.

 

[Deceived3596]

What you say isn't incorrect but having N-E doesn't mean you can delete someone who resists EE.

Generally speaking, without introducing outside variables like dimensionality or aspects erased by said Erasure, you couldn't resist Nonexistence Erasure just because you resisted Existence Erasure, as one is harming you on a more fundamental level compared to the other.

Now, if you introduce other variables, I could agree with you depending on the context.

Also, I was talking under the context of Grammy feat and you just took it out of context.

You're still incorrect, regardless of that. Nonexistence Erasure is, without additional context, above Existence Erasure. And with the additional context of Gremmy, you're still wrong in assuming his Nonexistence Erasure is below / equal with a general, baseline resistance to Existence Erasure as outlined explicitly above.

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

you couldn't resist Nonexistence Erasure just because you resisted Existence Erasure, as one is harming you on a more fundamental level compared to the other.

No, you are wrong. Non-existence isn't an aspect of someone/thing, existence is. Non-existence isn't more fundamental that anything, existence is qualitatively superior to non-existence.

You're still incorrect, regardless of that. Nonexistence Erasure is

You are missing my point bro, from the start, I didn't recognize what Grammy did as non-existence erasure but rather ''either fate manip or time erasure of his fictional character'' cause he said he can't imagine Lee's future.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Fate manip lol

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

''either fate manip or time erasure of his fictional character'' cause he said he can't imagine Lee's future.

Really??...

 

[Arcker123]

Even Damage is smarter than this guy lol

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

''either fate manip or time erasure of his fictional character'' cause he said he can't imagine Lee's future.

You and Johner have something in common.

 

[Arcker123]

I once had a conversation with Hellscream about Jobbers inundating this page. I came to two conclusions.

1. Hellscream is not a jobber
2. There is a jobber influx

 

[Hellscream]

I once had a conversation with Hellscream about Jobbers inundating this page. I came to two conclusions.

1. Hellscream is not a jobber
2. There is a jobber influx

 

[Adam1396]

Fate manip lol

Ichibei's case is lot better than this if he actually named events