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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Adam1396 said:
There's no reason to take someone seriously who think it's mandatory to affect past, present, future for 2C tier.
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Tier 2: Multiversal
Low 2-C: Universe level+
Characters or objects whose power is uncountably infinitely greater than the prior tiers. That is to say, they can significantly affect, create and/or destroy higher-dimensional structures that exceed lesser objects by an uncountably infinite margin. An example of this is 4-dimensional spacetime continuums of universal size, but this can be generalized to any 4-dimensional structure of a similar scope.
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The Space-time continuum refers to the concept of physics that refers to all the time of a certain space, i.e. the past, present and future of a space. It posits that space and time are not separate and distinct entities, but rather they are interwoven and form a single fabric of reality, called spacetime. In this view, events in the universe are not just located in space, they also occur at a specific point in time.
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Your ignorance is worrying.
 
Apparently Yhwach saw the soul king being sealed as a child, which would confirm that Yhwach is actually the soul king's son and that he's actually millions of years old
 
CodeCCLL said:
What feat do you think this would be consistent with? Senjumaru's Bankai doesn't show a Tier 2 feat in the first place, and since the distance between universes cannot be known, even the fact that the shaking crosses the dangai doesn't mean much
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I'm not going to sit here and defend Arcs view to you. All I'm going to defend is my claim, is that the key word can be interpreted in the tier two way, which is just trivially true. The words "significantly affect the world" can (im on phone so I can't bold this) refer to affecting the entire contiuum. The reason why you would believe that it does in this case, would be a further argument like arcs, which I'm ambivalent to. I brought that up to provide further avenues someone could take the argument if they wanted to
 
BestMGQScalerEver said:
this just proves yhwach is the good guy tbh going against an evil demiurge
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I feel like the Five Great Nobles and Ichibei would fit more as a demiurge. The Reio doesn't seem like someone who would willingly create a world of suffering, which is what the Gnostic demiurge does from by understanding.
 
Arcker123 said:
I'm not going to sit here and defend Arcs view to you. All I'm going to defend is my claim, is that the key word can be interpreted in the tier two way, which is just trivially true. The words "significantly affect the world" can (im on phone so I can't bold this) refer to affecting the entire contiuum. The reason why you would believe that it does in this case, would be a further argument like arcs, which I'm ambivalent to. I brought that up to provide further avenues someone could take the argument if they wanted to
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There's no need to entertain him any further. He either doesn’t know what he is talking about, or he observed very few threads.

Anyway hoping for Gremmy upgrade which would end up upgrading yamamoto too.

Do you think captains going to get a huge bump?
 
"Dualism: Gnostics often view the world as divided between the material and the spiritual. The Demiurge, often seen as an inferior or evil creator god, fashioned the material universe. The true God or Monad is transcendent and unknowable, far removed from the physical world. Archons: The Archons are lesser, deceptive spiritual beings who help the Demiurge govern the material world. They trap human souls in physical bodies and distract them from divine knowledge. Adonaeus is one such Archon, linked to the sun and often seen as a false light, keeping humans in ignorance."
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Soul King = Archons?
Royal Guard = Archons?

If this is would be the case then we haven't seen the real Gods yet!

"Salvation through Knowledge: Humans possess a divine spark or fragment of the true God. Salvation comes from awakening to this knowledge, realizing that the material world is a trap, and returning to the spiritual realm, often guided by a divine emissary. Influence of Christianity: Many Gnostic sects interpreted Christian figures like Jesus differently, seeing him as a divine revealer who imparts hidden knowledge rather than as a savior through sacrifice."
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Fullbrings?
 
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JohnHendrix212 said:
So, does Uryu get 4-A or something?

How does him defeating Senjumaru affect his scaling?
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Chad >>> Division Zero 😈
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So yeah if Second Invasion Base Yhwach fighting Ichibei wasn’t enough to prove he was transcendent/4-A this episode proves that he is in fact transcendent/4-A. He could block and survive attacks from True Shikai Ichigo with Blut. Also Ichibei’s probably stronger than True Shikai Ichigo based on this episode as well tbh.

Base Yhwach survived Ichigo’s Getsuga Jujisho with pretty much no injuries of getting knocked onto the ground. Ichibe on the other hand straight up crushed Yhwach’s Blut by flexing his muscles and made him bleed even without needing to weaken him.

Also not gonna lie after all the hype people said about this episode I really thought it was gonna be another Yamamoto vs Royd episode. But I guess it was overhyped. Like it’s good but not jaw dropping like episode 6.
 

The Almighty​

ユーハバッハの聖文字『A』の能力。未来のすべてを見通す事が可能で、発動時には眼球に複数の瞳が現れる。ユーハバッハは力の発現したその眼を「真の滅却師たる者の証」としており、見通したものをすべて「知る」事ができ、知った「力」を奪い、与える。そこに「理解」と「対策」の介在する余地はない。

ChatGPT Translation: Yhwach's Schrift, "A," grants him the power of Almighty. This ability allows him to foresee all possible futures. Upon activation, multiple pupils appear within his eyes. Yhwach refers to the manifestation of this power as the "proof of the true Quincy", signifying his ultimate status. With this ability, he can not only see everything that happens in the future but also "know" everything that occurs. This knowledge allows him to steal and bestow power as he sees fit. In the face of this, there is no room for understanding or countermeasures to intervene.

Triplet World​

原初の海から分かたれた尸魂界、現世、虚圏の三つの世界。遥く魂魄の流れを司る礎であり、かつ世界の根たる存在によって、霊子の世界、器子の世界、砂の楽土の三世界が分離され、「生」と「死」が隔てられた。

ChatGPT Translation: The three worlds—Soul Society (Seireitei), the World of the Living, and Hueco Mundo—were divided from the primordial sea. These worlds, governed by the flow of souls, were established by a foundational and essential existence, the very root of all worlds. This separation created the three realms: the world of spiritual particles (Reishi), the world of physical bodies, and the desert paradise of sand (Hueco Mundo), thus dividing life and death.
 
Honestly, I wasn't expecting much from this fight, the animators would have to do everything from scratch with some guidance from Kubo and directors. The fights that have already happened in the manga will be very well animated, as there is all the choreography already done, the most interesting thing was the new information and contexts that added several aspects that were hidden in the work, 3 worlds, Reio, Transcendence etc.
 
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