BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Guacamolefletcher]

It was your birthday? If so happy belated birthday.

yeah, thanks

 

[Reio35]

Equal stats?

Barragan would take out Askin, Pepe, Nozeil, Uryu, Toshiro, Senjumaru, Yukio, Lile before they even have the chance to activate their powers with his power to stop time around him and the power to turn them to ashes immediatly. How is Barragan not in your list?

No nozeil's passive spatial barrier probably negs it,yukio can put barrgan in a dimension and neg his powers. Then kill him or seal him,uryu can crush a rock and reverse it at barrgan,askin can adapt or use giftball which has larger range. The issue with barrgan is that you can still avoid his hax pretty easy and cutt of your body part that got hit.
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What's your argument to have Pepe and Yukio above Bankai Yamamoto?

I can see arguments for all others, but those two are sticking out to me rn.

Lmao have you seen yukio's profile? He has some of the best hax in all pf bleach. He can use his dimension to null hax,control laws,life,death,time,matter and even seal. He can trap yama in a dimension post "die" and he's or null his hax like he did orhime

Ehhh i guess you can put yama above pepe depending on how love interacts with his heat

 

[Reio35]

Why include God tiers they take up doors for being a no brainer stats equal or not their tier wouldn't change.

Yukio is blitzed by shunko or bamboozled by clones.

Except Gremmy is blitzed by shunko.

Jugram is getting insta killed so his fortune isn't doing anything.



Senjumaru's long ass ult/bankai startup is slower than shunko plus double tap

She can hit Lille he doesn't start out unhittable.

Toshiro could win.

Uryu could win but if the second one connects there is no swapping because he would be dead he would have to reverse the first one which he wouldn't bc he doesn't understand her power

Soi fon doesn't use shunko out the gate tho. Yukio is in character baits plp with clones and traps them in a dimension

Soi fon will have a hard time getting past blute.

In base lile is intag only when your about to hit him

His shield absorbs any damage and doubles it

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

Hello bleachers, exalt in my glory and praise me as it is my birthday (in EST time atleast).

Happy bday
And late bday for @Guacamolefletcher

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

I see my list had controversy

 

[Tyri456]

Liltotto with Vollstadig + Slaverei + the Glutton would give Byakuya some trouble imo

 

[Tyri456]

Starrk crt

stArc's res AP revision

Introduction (CRT made in conjuction with Arc) Currently, we have Starrk scaling to 4.435 petatons in base, and at least 4.435 petatons in his res since his res would not fall into our multiplier standards. However, based on recent evidence that has been found, there are grounds for Starrk's...

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Ya'll might like this one, cause with it, Starrk isn't even that far away from SE Ulquiorra's AP. He'd only be a half of it, in terms of scaling to an AP value, and his GRC could hypothetically even rival lanza for the sake of a battle. Also the wolves aren't that crazy of an increase now

I might make a starrk CRT in the future, because his base power is actually quite superior by feats to 1st resureccion Ulquiorra

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

Liltotto with Vollstadig + Slaverei + the Glutton would give Byakuya some trouble imo

Based on her reaction probably yes. She called the Quincy that were defeated pathetic and bragged about her and Meninas being strongest. She also didn't seem worried just said he seemed impressive/tough. I wouldn't call it ego as she tends to know the danger of things before everyone else. Like with Kenpachi, Ichigo and auswahlen. So Byakuya probably wins mid difficulty I doubt high but eh. Candice lost an arm, got shot by bazz B, and ran out of power. So it's safe to say sternritter girls > Robert. Even a weakened Candice and Meninas survived auswahlen where as Robert was obliterated

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

I might make a starrk CRT in the future, because his base power is actually superior by feats to 1st resureccion Ulquiorra

Idk I do think his base is above res grimmjow

 

[That_moron2]

why? what are you basing that on

Gerard goes from getting folded to packing up everyone, then Kenpachi throws hands with him but gets overpowered after Gerard gets a new arm, Kenpachi's Bankai easily sheers through Gerard's shield which he couldn't do even though he could cut Gerard's arm off, and his Bankai was stated to be incapable of breaking Gerard's core.

 

[Hellscream]

With equal stats,

1) Prime reio
2) Yhwach
3) Gremmy
4) Ichibei
5) Aizen
6) Yukio
7) Jugram
8) Lille Barro
9) Pernida
10) Askin
11) Gerard
12) Uryu
13) Senjumaru
14) Yamamoto
15) Baraggan

Royal guard is above Senjumaru because i highly doubt that they're going to be beaten, even with their buffs as their powers are just busted
Gerard could manhandle the entire gotei 13 by himself if he wanted (without stats equal) and we don't know how her hax works yet

Yamamoto / baraggan are kinda tied for me

And gremmy's ability is just busted, any reality warping thought based hax on equal stats gets an automatic high rank for me

 

[Spilxson2]

Somebody should probably draw Aizen doing the Kagurabachi pose. He spams Kyokasuigetsu in every fight he's in

 

[AppleLord]

No nozeil's passive spatial barrier probably negs it,

He gets blitz and won’t be able to do that in time because Barragen’s time hax will make Nozeil slow and he was blitz by Senjumaru.

yukio can put barrgan in a dimension and neg his powers.

He can’t do that if he is getting blitz. You act like Barragan is gonna stand there and wait for the dimension to seal him away.

Then kill him or seal him,uryu can crush a rock and reverse it at barrgan,

He will get hit before that happens.

askin can adapt or use giftball which has larger range.

Askin can’t adapt to “aging” is not an substance. Giftball deluxe requires Vollstandig which Barragan can blitz again.

The issue with barrgan is that you can still avoid his hax pretty easy and cutt of your body part that got hit.

Not when stats are equalize and Barragan has a time hax that make you slower than him. In character Barragan goes for cascada without stopping.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Somebody should probably draw Aizen doing the Kagurabachi pose. He spams Kyokasuigetsu in every fight he's in

Given that kagurabachi was a big inspiration for tite Kubo I agree

 

[W0NDER3X]

 

[AppleLord]

A stand to an anime with overpowered antagonist that can be debetable in internet forums to shit on your favorite verse. Because even Yhwach and Soul King shit on Bleachverse. ;0

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

Ppl sleeping on Soi fon here I see. Only God tiers immune and shunko gets them outta her with her shikai

 

[Hellscream]

Most of the top tiers drop their nuts on soi fon even with equal stats

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

How tho? She has shunpo techniques, shunko to amp her stats and no massive reiatsu gap wouldn't make them immune to shikai. So she would blitz them, confuse them with clones/after images, etc.

 

[Hellscream]

Prime reio dicks her down,
Yhwach dicks her down
Gremmy dicks her down
Aizen dicks her down
Yukio teleports her in his little dimension, unless if you want to argue that she's faster than him pressing a button with equal stats
She can't kill Ichibei, man touches her once and she's gone, also royal guard 100% have shunpo
Jugram reverses her one hit kill with the balance, and he has the almighty during the night
Gerard isn't getting killed
Pernida just meatballs her
Askin could maybe lose since he needs to get hit first, or if he just drops his gift ball on her
Uryu just reverses the hit
Senjumaru like ichibei should have shunpo
She ain't touching yamamoto / baraggan
Lille barro just opens his eyes and becomes intangible

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

Prime reio dicks her down,

no brainer shouldnt be added

Yhwach dicks her down

same as above

Gremmy dicks her down

Gremmy is blitzed

Aizen dicks her down

Blitzed. Tho if using hogyoku i dont see why hes added as Prime Reio, Yhwach, and Aizen could go unchanged in every list top 3

Yukio teleports her in his little dimension, unless if you want to argue that she's faster than him pressing a button with equal stats

ok

She can't kill Ichibei, man touches her once and she's gone, also royal guard 100% have shunpo

blitzed he wouldnt touch her, shunko

Jugram reverses her one hit kill with the balance, and he has the almighty during the night

he cant reverse it if hes dead.

Gerard isn't getting killed

The miracle doesnt prevent death manipulation

Pernida just meatballs her

Blizted

Askin could maybe lose since he needs to get hit first, or if he just drops his gift ball on her

blitzed

Uryu just reverses the hit

he wouldnt do that if he doesnt understand her power

Senjumaru like ichibei should have shunpo

Shunko and shikai is faster than the activation of her long ass bankai

She ain't touching yamamoto / baraggan

She literally would

Lille barro just opens his eyes and becomes intangible

ok

 

[AppleLord]

Pernida:

- why did Pernida not evolve after the Senjumaru clone? It was still a physical reishi being? Pernida controls the nerves of others and matter. Wouldn't Pernida notice that with her nerves? Was that an illusion? Or reality manipulation? Is different from the puppet Gerard stabbed.

- Why didn't Pernida turn Kirio into a meat ball? Shouldn't her powers touch Kirio and make Pernida evolve again?

- Is Pernida's hand stuck in this events? o,o

 

[Arcker123]

Soil Fon sucks . Base BG9 > Shunko

Azashiro Dicks equal stats

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

if she sucks equal stats prove it way i see it shunko shikai ends 98%

 

[Hellscream]

i'll reply later gaming rn

 

[That_moron2]

Given that kagurabachi was a big inspiration for tite Kubo I agree

I don't know why this thread is even still open since Bleach is just obsolete now that Kagurabachi is out.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

i'll reply later gaming rn

same

 

[Arcker123]

if she sucks equal stats prove it way i see it shunko shikai ends 98%

I did not see that

Aza still claps = stats

 

[Spilxson2]

Blitzed. Tho if using hogyoku i dont see why hes added as Prime Reio, Yhwach, and Aizen could go unchanged in every list top 3

Soifon's seen Kyokasuigetsu already. She's not even going to know if she hits Aizen or not

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

In a versus u can't put the person already under someone else ability that's called cheating

 

[Reio35]

Yhwach uses the power of the devil

 

[Hellscream]

That incantation was badass as ****, blew kurohitsugi out of the water

Just the entire scene of Auswahlen tbh, probably my most favorite scene in bleach atm

 

[Spilxson2]

The bleach wiki says that apparently Senjumaru activating her bankai shook the soul society and the real world. Neat

 

[AnAverageUsername]

I keep having to click on this thread, my notifs keep going off

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

The bleach wiki says that apparently Senjumaru activating her bankai shook the soul society and the real world. Neat

THE REAL WORLD!!!!!!!! Tier 1 bleach ong

 

[LordTracer]

THE REAL WORLD!!!!!!!! Tier 1 bleach ong

*Tier 10

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

*Tier 10

Close enough

 

[Spilxson2]

THE REAL WORLD!!!!!!!! Tier 1 bleach ong

2-C Bleach would've been funnier

 

[Hellscream]

Your interpretation is obviously wrong, and that statement is an outlier, at best it's hill level

Always the same shit with bleach fans

 

[Spilxson2]

Your interpretation is obviously wrong, and that statement is an outlier, at best it's hill level

Always the same shit with bleach fans

All I want is for characters to be FTL