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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Equal stats

1.Prime reio
2. Yhwach
3.Aizen
4. Yukio
5. Gerard
6. Gremmy
7. Jugram
8. Senjumaru
9. Lile
10. Ichibei
11. Toshiro
12. Uryu
13 asnot
14 uryu
15 nozeil
16 pepe
17 askin
 
Equal stats

1.Prime reio
2. Yhwach
3.Aizen
4. Yukio
5. Gerard
6. Gremmy
7. Jugram
8. Senjumaru
9. Lile
10. Ichibei
11. Toshiro
12. Uryu
13 asnot
14 uryu
15 nozeil
16 pepe
17 askin
What's your argument to have Pepe and Yukio above Bankai Yamamoto?

I can see arguments for all others, but those two are sticking out to me rn.
 
Equal stats

1.Prime reio
2. Yhwach
3.Aizen
4. Yukio
5. Gerard
6. Gremmy
7. Jugram
8. Senjumaru
9. Lile
10. Ichibei
11. Toshiro
12. Uryu
13 asnot
14 uryu
15 nozeil
16 pepe
17 askin
Equal stats?

Barragan would take out Askin, Pepe, Nozeil, Uryu, Toshiro, Senjumaru, Yukio, Lile before they even have the chance to activate their powers with his power to stop time around him and the power to turn them to ashes immediatly. How is Barragan not in your list?
 
Universes inside of the Garganta? Garganta isn't space. Last time, Garganta was said to be "like" outerspace to the worlds if they could be called similar to "planets" in the garganta. Is a matter of describing their shape more than anything.

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How do you have an equally bad statement of having Barragan above characters like Adult Toshiro, Uryu and Lille....

Baraggan doesn't even stop time, he slows it......
Yep, still those characters have no counter to his powers. Everything ages. Hax. "Equal stats", yo!
 
Aizen wouldn't make a difference really part of reason he excelled is because his stats were far super to everybody else
I hope you understand that Aizen has more things than just his raw power..... right? He has access to The Hogyoku which grants him immortality that makes him unkillable by basically everything in the verse, including Soi-Fon's Death Manipulation/Existence Erasure. He has complete access to all Kido's, ranging from Hado 90 which atomizes people when fully powered or multiple sealing Kido. He has access to Kyoka Suigetsu that allows him to control one's complete senses, including the sixth spiritual sense of souls, through nothing but you staring at his body.

Plus his immense skill and intelligence, he's absolutely above characters like Mask and Soi-Fon.

Why tf would I add the soul king and Yhwach they obvious
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Yep, still does characters have no counter to his powers. Everything ages. Hax.
Adult Toshiro powernulls the aging mist.

Uryu "Antithesis" the aging mist into Baraggan's body.

Lille bypasses the aging by having an attack that produces no projectile and travels instantly.

All three have easily ways of beating Baraggan while Baraggan's main win-con is easily countered.
 
What's your argument to have Pepe and Yukio above Bankai Yamamoto?

I can see arguments for all others, but those two are sticking out to me rn.
Yama wouldn't do anything except zanka no tachi east but since it was only able to cut a small part of fake Yhwach cape, it wouldn't be a one shot. So it's only on the ground and shit where there is huge aoe
 
Yama wouldn't do anything except zanka no tachi east but since it was only able to cut a small part of fake Yhwach cape, it wouldn't be a one shot. So it's only on the ground and shit where there is huge aoe
He passively produces 15 million degree heats, both character aren't surviving that level of heat bruh. Neither character can counter this nor has resistances on that level. He just passively slaps them like he was going to do with Royd Loyd if he didn't have that strong ass blut.
 
why isnt soi-fon anywhere in this list? she pretty much has a 1-shot kill ability, which only got negged because of aizen's massive reiatsu
Reio, Aizen, Gerard and Yhwach just straight up won't die
Yukio just puts up a shield, if the Yukio she even tagged was the real him and not one of his clones
Gremmy just imagines the first Nigeki Kessatsu hit never happens
Jugram equalizes his misfortune of being hit once and rains down more misfortune on her with freund schild
Senjumau traps her in the black sand room
She can't hit Lille
Toshiro flash freezes her before she makes contact and if she does she's still cooked
Uryu slaps her with an antithesis any time he receives a homonka
As Nodt paralyses if not kills her just by her looking at his walls

Nigeki Kessatsu isn't THAT busted 🗿
 
@Deceived3596 Lol Kenpachi survived the heat even while being unconscious. If stats are equal that means everyone is stronger than Kenpachi meaning they would survive the passive heat. As we know shikai Yama > kenpachi. And as for the aizen shit I was thinking shinigami aizen and he wouldn't have enough reiatsu to atomize anybody. Hado 90 full incant was being used by a transcendent stats equal he wouldn't have enough reiatsu to power hado 90 enough to one shot and nobody would let him fully cast it. Ichigo only did to show he was superior
 
Aside from Prime Reio ofc, Gerard is kinda unbeatable in equal stats.
Gerard's Core Durability>Bankai Kenpachi>Post Kenpachi Gerard>Miracle Gerard>Gerard
 
Reio, Aizen, Gerard and Yhwach just straight up won't die
Yukio just puts up a shield, if the Yukio she even tagged was the real him and not one of his clones
Gremmy just imagines the first Nigeki Kessatsu hit never happens
Jugram equalizes his misfortune of being hit once and rains down more misfortune on her with freund schild
Senjumau traps her in the black sand room
She can't hit Lille
Toshiro flash freezes her before she makes contact and if she does she's still cooked
Uryu slaps her with an antithesis any time he receives a homonka
As Nodt paralyses if not kills her just by her looking at his walls

Nigeki Kessatsu isn't THAT busted 🗿

Why include God tiers they take up doors for being a no brainer stats equal or not their tier wouldn't change.

Yukio is blitzed by shunko or bamboozled by clones.

Except Gremmy is blitzed by shunko.

Jugram is getting insta killed so his fortune isn't doing anything.



Senjumaru's long ass ult/bankai startup is slower than shunko plus double tap

She can hit Lille he doesn't start out unhittable.

Toshiro could win.

Uryu could win but if the second one connects there is no swapping because he would be dead he would have to reverse the first one which he wouldn't bc he doesn't understand her power
 
Lol Kenpachi survived the heat even while being unconscious. If stats are equal that means everyone is stronger than Kenpachi meaning they would survive the passive heat. As we know shikai Yama > kenpachi
Kenpachi was never close to Bankai Yamamoto's passive aura, what are you talking about? I hope you understand that Kenpachi wasn't close to Yamamoto vs Royd Loyd, he was further away, hence why he wasn't harmed by the aura. Those who were actually close with Yamamoto were actively being damaged by the aura, such as Royd Loyd and Jugram. Both of whom are stronger than that version of Kenpachi.

And as for the aizen shit I was thinking shinigami aizen and he wouldn't have enough reiatsu to atomize anybody. Hado 90 full incant was being used by a transcendent stats equal he wouldn't have enough reiatsu to power hado 90 enough to one shot and nobody would let him fully cast it. Ichigo only did to show he was superior
He does have enough Reiryoku/Strength to power Hado 90 because he's being equalized at his strongest form, those who are being equalized are being equalized with him, not him being equalized with them.

Muken Aizen can cast Hado 90 with a basic thought, he did it against Yhwach's eyeball creatures. He doesn't need to use the full incantation like he did while in his Butterfly state.
 
I found a CSAP wiki calculation of Aaroniero being Relativistic+/FTL for dodging sunlight in his fight with Rukia. Are there any calculations here for that or is it considered an outlier?
 
Doesn't address my argument that he wasn't in the effective range of Yamamoto's constrained, passive bankai heat. Idk what to tell you.
 
Are Bleach characters still going to be High 6-A after the revisions are done? I was thinking about seeing if I could get them into 10th place in the "Top 10 Strongest Characters for Each Tier Continuation" thread
 
@Deceived3596 Lol Kenpachi survived the heat even while being unconscious. If stats are equal that means everyone is stronger than Kenpachi meaning they would survive the passive heat. As we know shikai Yama > kenpachi. And as for the aizen shit I was thinking shinigami aizen and he wouldn't have enough reiatsu to atomize anybody. Hado 90 full incant was being used by a transcendent stats equal he wouldn't have enough reiatsu to power hado 90 enough to one shot and nobody would let him fully cast it. Ichigo only did to show he was superior
what is blud waffling about
 
Are Bleach characters still going to be High 6-A after the revisions are done? I was thinking about seeing if I could get them into 10th place in the "Top 10 Strongest Characters for Each Tier Continuation" thread
I mean like, they'd be like a hair away from moon level at their best high 6-A stuff

Gerard's Core Durability>Bankai Kenpachi>Post Kenpachi Gerard>Miracle Gerard>Gerard
why? what are you basing that on
 
Top 10 if stats were equal?

1. Soi fon. Wouldn't get negged by reiatsu with her shikai. Sure her speed would no longer stand out but, amps still apply right? So shunko should make her faster no? Plus she still has her shunpo techniques like 20 clones.

2. Ichibei

3. Senjumaru

4. Lile Barro

5. Gerard

6. Mask de masculine (gets amps)

7. Nianzol

8. Barragan

9. Shunsui

10. Urahara
SOIFON AT 1?!

@Arc7Kuroi

 
Top 10 if stats were equal?

1. Soi fon. Wouldn't get negged by reiatsu with her shikai. Sure her speed would no longer stand out but, amps still apply right? So shunko should make her faster no? Plus she still has her shunpo techniques like 20 clones.
They're not clones. They're afterimages. Aizen literally destroys Soi Fon and he's not even on this list. Somehow Nianzol is above him?
 
They're not clones. They're afterimages. Aizen literally destroys Soi Fon and he's not even on this list. Somehow Nianzol is above him?
I know stats are equal but Kyokasuigetsu is still Kyokasuigetsu. Also if you're counting amps, I'm pretty sure Ichigo going into Bankai is faster than Soi Fon using Shunko
 
Equal stats?

Barragan would take out Askin, Pepe, Nozeil, Uryu, Toshiro, Senjumaru, Yukio, Lile before they even have the chance to activate their powers with his power to stop time around him and the power to turn them to ashes immediatly. How is Barragan not in your list?
No nozeil's passive spatial barrier probably negs it,yukio can put barrgan in a dimension and neg his powers. Then kill him or seal him,uryu can crush a rock and reverse it at barrgan,askin can adapt or use giftball which has larger range. The issue with barrgan is that you can still avoid his hax pretty easy and cutt of your body part that got hit.
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What's your argument to have Pepe and Yukio above Bankai Yamamoto?

I can see arguments for all others, but those two are sticking out to me rn.
Lmao have you seen yukio's profile? He has some of the best hax in all pf bleach. He can use his dimension to null hax,control laws,life,death,time,matter and even seal. He can trap yama in a dimension post "die" and he's or null his hax like he did orhime

Ehhh i guess you can put yama above pepe depending on how love interacts with his heat
 
Why include God tiers they take up doors for being a no brainer stats equal or not their tier wouldn't change.

Yukio is blitzed by shunko or bamboozled by clones.

Except Gremmy is blitzed by shunko.

Jugram is getting insta killed so his fortune isn't doing anything.



Senjumaru's long ass ult/bankai startup is slower than shunko plus double tap

She can hit Lille he doesn't start out unhittable.

Toshiro could win.

Uryu could win but if the second one connects there is no swapping because he would be dead he would have to reverse the first one which he wouldn't bc he doesn't understand her power
Soi fon doesn't use shunko out the gate tho. Yukio is in character baits plp with clones and traps them in a dimension

Soi fon will have a hard time getting past blute.

In base lile is intag only when your about to hit him

His shield absorbs any damage and doubles it
 
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