BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Arc7Kuroi]

Impling this is better and won't absolute cause years of disinformation about his cursed matchup

Baby steps, Naruto (not including Boruto) is a finished series with a completed anime and databooks for all parts of the story, you have everything you need to scale Naruto. Bleach is potentially continuing, has yet to finish its anime adaptation, and currently has no databook for the final parts of the TYBW. It's harder to scale and come to conclusions with certain TYBW Bleach characters than their War Arc Naruto counterparts, because there's less information for Bleach. Regardless, a step in the right direction is still a step.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

I just want to know how they thought that calc was fine

 

[Loyd]

You know its scaling like DB that makes me appreciate the standards and the depth this site goes through.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I just want to know how they thought that calc was fine

It's the only way to get Madara above Aizen in AP, they didn't present an argument for why it scales to AP either. They said Madara's chakra made it grow that fast, I don't know how true that is though.

 

[Blallooo]

Baby steps, Naruto (not including Boruto) is a finished series with a completed anime and databooks for all parts of the story, you have everything you need to scale Naruto. Bleach is potentially continuing, has yet to finish its anime adaptation, and currently has no databook for the final parts of the TYBW. It's harder to scale and come to conclusions with certain TYBW Bleach characters than their War Arc Naruto counterparts, because there's less information for Bleach. Regardless, a step in the right direction is still a step.

I see your point but honestly it's still pretty saddening and I'm still salty
Can't do much about it, death battle is the worst for me

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I see your point but honestly it's still pretty saddening and I'm still salty
Can't do much about it, death battle is the worst for me

The only thing I'm salty about is the animation and sprite art

 

[CalmHill]

Regai arc is non cannon so hellverse fitting there does not hold weight

Is about a character, that does not make it canon, there is also no timeline

That would not make it canon

"Fit" as in the theme of the verse, not "fit" as into the timeline

anime only material is referenced in the novels multiple times, kubo supervises the anime, bounts where supposed to be in the manga, kubo has said if it doesnt fit into the story hell remove it.

Idk what kind of argument that is, yes the movie is about tosh, kubo makes a tie in chapter + advertises + works on it + makes a guide, interview, and comic for it + a different perspective directly means the same

Yes it would, it connects more than movie 1 which is referenced in the manga. and he made the plot.

If that’s the case then the novels + upcoming anime should not be considered cannon. Kubo can work on it makes the plot, have tie ins, advertise, and say they’re the same and it’s not cannon still

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

anime only material is referenced in the novels multiple times, kubo supervises the anime, bounts where supposed to be in the manga, kubo has said if it doesnt fit into the story hell remove it.

Idk what kind of argument that is, yes the movie is about tosh, kubo makes a tie in chapter + advertises + works on it + makes a guide, interview, and comic for it + a different perspective directly means the same

Yes it would, it connects more than movie 1 which is referenced in the manga. and he made the plot.

If that’s the case then the novels + upcoming anime should not be considered cannon. Kubo can work on it makes the plot, have tie ins, advertise, and say they’re the same and it’s not cannon still

not really, he does, bount where never put on the manga only on a filler arc, and after that they are never talked or mentioned again, so talking about "what if, supposed" does not really matter

"advertises + works on it + makes a guide, interview, and comic for it "

yea, they have to advertise the movies if they want people to see them.... working on it so that it remains on the theme of his verse, intervews to promote it

if u mean the chapter for hellverse that really does not matter since he is doing hell arc now

dark rukia nor the events of that movie are ever mention on manga nor novels

movie 1 does have mentions and references on the canon work

upcoming anime follows the manga so no problem there, novels are after the whole war so fir on the timeline
also the weight of all the canon is basically

LN/WN if there is any before any other work >>>>>> manga >>>>> animes/movies

 

[CalmHill]

not really, he does, bount where never put on the manga only on a filler arc, and after that they are never talked or mentioned again, so talking about "what if, supposed" does not really matter

"advertises + works on it + makes a guide, interview, and comic for it "

yea, they have to advertise the movies if they want people to see them.... working on it so that it remains on the theme of his verse, intervews to promote it

if u mean the chapter for hellverse that really does not matter since he is doing hell arc now

dark rukia nor the events of that movie are ever mention on manga nor novels

movie 1 does have mentions and references on the canon work

upcoming anime follows the manga so no problem there, novels are after the whole war so fir on the timeline
also the weight of all the canon is basically

LN/WN if there is any before any other work >>>>>> manga >>>>> animes/movies

Ashido is mentioned as well as the zanpacto rebellion and muramasa, pog, kubo intended to have karia and the bount arc in the manga. He said it was a cautionary tale which is why he got really involved, side story

Kubo doesn’t have to advertise anything, there’s not many I can name he has. He didn’t even advertise 3, but he speaks of it as part of the story that happened.

What does the hell arc matter to hell verse

And? that is not an argument for cannon, movie 1 was out way before the chapter came out mentioning it. Was it non cannon till that chapter? No, side stories exist

All the movies are talked about in the manga. diamond dust “a different perspective” by definition is cannon, movie 1 “ichigo, sketch, kubo”, movie 4, “ tie in chapter, tie in episode, same wording as cfyow a story that fits into the view”, movie 3 funnily enough doesn’t have mention in the manga. The connecting happens in the interviews

literally the same thing

That’s most definitely not the case for bleach it should be
Anime=manga=movies=novels
The newest portrayal should be taken as best since it’s the most recent intent of the author.

kubo makes the manga, anything else is adapted after so by proxy anything made after “that involves kubo” has a more experienced vision kubo. + no time constraint

 

[Deceived3596]

Fight for a placement on the Top 5 Strongest Characters list here check it out.

 

[T2KBaka]

Lmao the length of the fight was such a disappointment.

Spoiler

Then again I knew Aizen lost from the beginning.

 

[AppleLord]

Spoiler: Spoilers

Spoiler: Spoilers

How come Madara could resist illusions base on feats but ignore Aizen's soul destruction resistance feats and give Madara one questionable soul destruction feat to kill him?

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Spoiler: Spoilers

Spoiler: Spoilers

How come Madara could resist illusions base on feats but ignore Aizen's soul destruction resistance feats and give Madara one questionable soul destruction feat to kill him?

Yes

 

[AppleLord]

Anyone has a scan of the official translation that said Soul Kong destroyed a Giant Menos Grande? Any combat feats?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Considering the menos was planet sized that could be a 5-B feat no?

 

[Theendzero13]

Considering the menos was planet sized that could be a 5-B feat no?

It should, defeating a planet size guy is probrably the most blatant and unquestionable tier 5 feat on this whole series

 

[Theendzero13]

Considering the menos was planet sized that could be a 5-B feat no?

I actually got 5-A, using the human striking strenght formula WTF

 

[Snoke123]

the worst is not the video aizen vs madara. the worst thing is that to this day there are people (mainly on comic vine) who blindly believe that naruto in some miraculous way can resist The Almighty.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I actually got 5-A, using the human striking strenght formula WTF

Actually that could be nice to give Prime Reio a better rating justification, make a blog for it.

 

[Cyberblader90]

ehhh seemed like they hadnt converged into a 5-b hollow yet

 

[Theendzero13]

ehhh seemed like they hadnt converged into a 5-b hollow yet

Well this sucks

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

how many creatures one has to turn to sand to make an entire planet.....

 

[BleachHollow]

I'm losing braincells debating people on the Death Battle live chat. In what way can Itachi solo the verse . I need to Bleach my eyes.

 

[Theendzero13]

how many creatures one has to turn to sand to make an entire planet.....

What is the size of your average hollow?

 

[skippy]

What is the size of your average hollow?

Depends, but on avarage i‘d say about 5 meters.
And Menos grande are 100-300 souls into 1 hollow and they are 150m

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

I'm losing braincells debating people on the Death Battle live chat. In what way can Itachi solo the verse . I need to Bleach my eyes.

solo which verse?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

What is the size of your average hollow?

some are human size, some like 4 floors high, the tallest would be the menos grande which are bigger than building and i think skyscrapers

 

[Theendzero13]

It seens like the soul king killed AT LEAST around 1,655E+19 hollows, what ****, it can get lower results if we assume the sand is only the planet surface but jesus that is ridiculous

 

[BleachHollow]

solo which verse?

Bleach

 

[Blallooo]

I'm losing braincells debating people on the Death Battle live chat. In what way can Itachi solo the verse . I need to Bleach my eyes.

They are blatantly wanking Madara and downplaying Aizen, litterrally 0 research, they "forget" so many things
I can't wait for people to debunk all of that nonsense

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

They are blatantly wanking Madara and downplaying Aizen, litterrally 0 research, they "forget" so many things
I can't wait for people to debunk all of that nonsense

Hulk Smash stupid death battle research.

 

[Blallooo]

It was painful to watch

 

[Blallooo]

How does destruction on a molecular level kill Aizen ? His own hadou 90 destroys on an atomic level and this alone debunks that

 

[Blallooo]

Hulk Smash stupid death battle research.

Hulk still would be more reasonable and efficient than them in battleboarding

 

[BleachHollow]

How does destruction on a molecular level kill Aizen ? His own hadou 90 destroys on an atomic level and this alone debunks that

Madara can't counter Aizen Immortality or whatever the shit Death battle was trying to do with Truth Seeking Balls. They nullify the Edo Tensei ability to restore the body since Edo tensei is a ninjutsu. Hokage's Edo Tensei is also a form of Ninjutsu used to store the soul using the Uzumaki Clan Seal which again is a ninjutsu. Death Battle is dumb.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Itachi solo god Uchiha, cope

 

[Blallooo]

Madara can't counter Aizen Immortality or whatever the shit Death battle was trying to do with Truth Seeking Balls. They nullify the Edo Tensei ability to restore the body since Edo tensei is a ninjutsu. Hokage's Edo Tensei is also a form of Ninjutsu used to store the soul using the Uzumaki Clan Seal which again is a ninjutsu. Death Battle is dumb.

Aizen being threatened by smallie meteors was also fun considering Shikai Kenpachi can cut a 1100+ km wide meteor like butter
They managed to mess this up even more than Ichigo Vs Naruto, litterrally every single argument of them has fallacies

 

[Shadyboi0]

Itachi solo god Uchiha, cope

cope from a 9-B?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

cope from a 9-B?

Tier 11

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Bleach

yea, na fam, do they even know who YH is? or the Soul king?