BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Arc7Kuroi]

But if we take this statement as referring to his literal power level, how much of a problem that would be for scaling?

It's blatantly contradicted

Barrgan stated aizen gave him more power. I do believe he was an arrancar before meeting aizen Because his appearance is still the same post aizen amping him. The novels directly stated ikomodomei has power relative to barrgan

Crazy how characters also get weaker if they don't train or do anything for 100s of years as implied with Baraggan. Either way, if you think Espada Respira > past Respira, it doesn't change anything of what I said.

Crazy how mf accept a amp ginjo being on ichigos level but not barrgan being ikomodomei level

Reio has been addicted to copium for over a year ever since I upgraded Ginjo, it's actually sad and pathetic.

 

[KingogKings777]

Reio has been addicted to copium for over a year ever since I upgraded Ginjo, it's actually sad and pathetic.

Ginjo's upgrade isn't even a big deal never got the fuss over it since it required him to get emotion amp to produce 1 attack equal to Ichigo's attack.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Ngl I don't accept both

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Deadass in the BBS game Ikomikidomoe is obviously referring to a level of power. I don’t know what you’re waffling about.

Btw I really don't see big Contradiction in scaling Barragan above CFYOW Grimmjow. Like only thing that scales to Barragan is Soi fon Bankai which has no anti feats. Screw other characters chain scaling. Going by how Barragan defeated. He doesn't have any anti feats

Also Iko was talking SP in one scenario. I do think Barragan is stronger than CFYOW Grimmjow. Well I won't push that shit in wiki anyway.

Ginjo's upgrade isn't even a big deal never got the fuss over it since it required him to get emotion amp to produce 1 attack equal to Ichigo's attack.

We can just apply that to Stark who was emotionally down and scale Stark > Barragan > CFYOW Grimmjow

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

It’s so sad that no one can comprehend the scaling in CFYOW well that’s my job with the verse wide scaling threads anyhow so oh well

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

It’s so sad that no one can comprehend the scaling in CFYOW well that’s my job with the verse wide scaling threads anyhow so oh well

I am waiting for your Tybw Thread where is it . Can't wait to see few of bleach characters getting upgraded to 5B..

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I am waiting for your Tybw Thread where is it . Can't wait to see few of bleach characters getting upgraded to 5B..

I’ve got to read 2.5 more CFYOW chapters and then rewatch the TYBW anime. It’ll prolly drop after 4th of July

 

[skippy]

Starrk is pretty strong, he used like 2 wolves on 2 captains of which both were wearing hollow masks and defeated them so.

out of 40+ wolves he only needed 2 for each…

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Starrk is pretty strong, he used like 2 wolves on 2 captains of which both were wearing hollow masks and defeated them so.

out of 40+ wolves he only needed 2 for each…

He didn't even got a scratch from taking direct hits from 2 captains.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

I def got Barragan beating most Sterns

But he ain't soloing all of them for sure

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I def got Barragan beating most Sterns

But he ain't soloing all of them for sure

Lille
Royd
Gerard
Jugram
Definitely Smokes Barragan.

It's just base Aizen scales above Tybw characters. Only base Aizen scales above Barragan respira. Technically character needs good hax or they need AP on the level of Base Aizen if they gonna smoke Barragan pack.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Lille
Royd
Gerard
Jugram
Definitely Smokes Barragan.

Bro forgot Gremmy and Pernida

It's just base Aizen scales above Tybw characters. Only base Aizen scales above Barragan respira. Technically character needs good hax or they need AP on the level of Base Aizen if they gonna smoke Barragan pack.

Uuuhh....Starrk too bro Ulquiorra as well but I am too tired to try and get into that argument now when I'm about to go watch Spiderverse

You don't need Base Aizen level AP to neg Respira lmao...SAFWY Kenny could neg respira ( as stated by Cien ) and he was for sure not Aizen level lol

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Ulquiorra gets eviscerated by Respira. You’re coping if you think otherwise.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Way too tired

Gonna go watch Spiderverse....not arguing this shit again

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Bro forgot Gremmy and Pernida

Gremmy agree
Pernaida is a nono. It's Abilities is clearly hax

Uuuhh....Starrk too bro Ulquiorra as well but I am too tired to try and get into that argument now when I'm about to go watch Spiderverse

Stark can't neg respira it's stated.

You don't need Base Aizen level AP to neg Respira lmao...SAFWY Kenny could neg respira ( as stated by Cien ) and he was for sure not Aizen level lol

Well atleast you need AP on SAFWY kenpachi then

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Gremmy agree
Pernaida is a nono. It's Abilities is clearly hax

Stark can't neg respira it's stated.

Well atleast you need AP on SAFWY kenpachi then

Could I have that statement that Starrk can't neg respira?

 

[Ped2018]

Could I have that statement that Starrk can't neg respira?

Cien literally states that Respira is one of three strongest powers in hueco mundo (except Aizen ofc), the only thing you could argue about Starkk that is comparable to Respira is his wolves, but idk if Respira is gonna scale higher due to the CFYOW statement.

 

[Malekith]

I open youtube and this appears to me, algorithm chasing me

 

[Malekith]

 

[Ped2018]

Bro missed the point of Miracle

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

I def got Barragan beating most Sterns

But he ain't soloing all of them for sure

most sterns are clapping the shit out of barragan

 

[Excellence616]

Baraggan's Respira being > CFYOW Grimmjow isn't even inconsistent. The only characters that are stated to be beyond Respira, are end of SAFWY Zaraki, and by extension those stronger than him, of which CFYOW Grimmjow isn't included.

This statement, do you have scans for it?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Ulquiorra wankers exist in 2023

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

most sterns are clapping the shit out of barragan

barragan cant handle a vasto lorde ichigo which is weaker than his fullbring by a lot

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Ulquiorra wankers exist in 2023

im 1000iq, so i wank starrk instead

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Stark slams Ulq too

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Lille
Royd
Gerard
Jugram
Definitely Smokes Barragan.

It's just base Aizen scales above Tybw characters. Only base Aizen scales above Barragan respira. Technically character needs good hax or they need AP on the level of Base Aizen if they gonna smoke Barragan pack.

base aizen from fkt (by base i assume you mean pre hyogoku) is weaker than bankai yama, who was having trouble with royd lloyd

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

base aizen from fkt (by base i assume you mean pre hyogoku) is weaker than bankai yama, who was having trouble with royd lloyd

Lol no he wasn’t

 

[KINGWILLTHEGREAT0815]

Stark slams Ulq too

yammy and barragan are Packing Ulquiorra up as well and you can probably debate harribel puts this man away even in his se. It’s 2023 Ulquiorra wank needs to end

 

[YukaSama4]

Starrk would speed blitz Ulquiorra and smack him as if he's his son, then he will break lanza into two pieces and burn Ulq with a wolf, Ulq's last words would be "**** you to whoever said I'm beating this guy"

 

[AppleLord]

Pretty sure it was considered an outlier cause they suddenly had a 3-C calc when the highest thing accepted for non-god tiers at the time was Gremmy's 6-A meteor

Well, some stories have gone from street level to complex multiversal level and somehow not and outlier

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Starrk would speed blitz Ulquiorra and smack him as if he's his son, then he will break lanza into two pieces and burn Ulq with a wolf, Ulq's last words would be "**** you to whoever said I'm beating this guy"

overrated bat gets packed up by alpha wolf

 

[Blallooo]

Starrk litterally needed his full power to barely knock out Love and rose who were ready to fight Aizen 5 minutes later, sneak attacked Shunsui and managed to do no damage with his gun physically touching Shunsui's back. Why would I believe he's stronger than Bambi who one taps captains ? Base Mask punches were obliterating Bankai Kensei and he got murked by Renji several power up later and Bazz b stalmated Bankai Renji and Rukia at once; Robert legit outperformed Starrk lmao, as Nödt vollstandig is overpowered, nienizol is litterally untouchable and so on. Royd put a decent fight against Yamamato, Gremmy would end the espada by thinking.
I can understand Barragan because of respiria bullshit hax (even if Sawfy kenpachi apparently can shrug It off) but Hallibel and Starrk just weren't that impressive, at least not compared to strongest non èlite sternritters.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Starrk litterally needed his full power to barely knock out Love and rose

That's not an anti feat, that just means masked up Love and Rose are cracked...

who were ready to fight Aizen 5 minutes later

It immediately knocked them out of hollowification dawg, and they couldn't use it again against Aizen.

sneak attacked Shunsui and managed to do no damage with his gun physically touching Shunsui's back

He leaves shunsui basically knocked out...

Robert legit outperformed Starrk lmao

Not the wolves

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Way too tired

Gonna go watch Spiderverse....not arguing this shit again

DAMN good movie

 

[AppleLord]

It would be a miracle for Gerard to win that one. Oh, geez.

 

[zylieo]

Bleach Episode #14
Title: THE LAST 9 DAYS

 

[Spilxson2]

Why is TYBW Rangiku 6-C while Arrancer arc Rangiku is 6-B? I don't see anything saying she's gotten weaker since the arrancar arc

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Why is TYBW Rangiku 6-C while Arrancer arc Rangiku is 6-B? I don't see anything saying she's gotten weaker since the arrancar arc

It’s because I haven’t finished updated profiles

 

[Spilxson2]

What led to her even being 6-C in the first place?