BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Arc7Kuroi]

We can actually tier the Soul Cycle funny enough, a Valley of Screams worth of Blanks (Blanks being stragglers from the cycle) are capable of planetary feats. Ganryu comments on their being infinite amount of souls in the cycle. So you could tier the Soul Cycle at High 3-A. There’s potency and energy associated with souls in Bleach.

There exists multiple Valley of Screams so the Soul Cycle would have to be vastly above multi-planetary to high universal. Being that it’s a universal flow it’d be consistent to say stabilizing it is a universal feat.

 

[Alive90Achilles]

I also didn’t see an argument against the realms size

None of them no longer can use any reasoning to argue against it.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

There are so many souls in rotations that they frequently come together when ejected from the cycle and they form into pocket dimensions.

I don’t see anyone ever panic when souls are lost within the cycle and into the Garganta.

 

[Ovy7]

The simple fact that Mayuri had to genocide 20k souls to balance the cycle clearly shows that SK has nothing to do with the balance of souls (cause if he had, he would have balanced it himself).

Also, infinite souls isn't that far fetched when everything, even atoms, have souls.

 

[LordGinSama]

The bias is abundantly clear at this point, the page was literally made just to downgrade Bleach. Like I said, when certain users go against an upgrade and nobody agrees with them they wanna resort to implementing entire new rules, literally right after the CRT. They'll say they just thought about it randomly but whoever wants to genuinely argue for that is a borderline pathological liar.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Yes people forget the fact that each individual element has a “soul”. Things would be a lot easier if people would simply accept certain facts that are clearly explained.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I mean with everything having a Soul, balancing the Soul Cycle can be interpreted as balancing everything in existence.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Don’t think so. If I recall it’s only human souls being reincarnated.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

What about animals? They seem to have their own dimension

 

[AppleLord]

Why did Aizen needed to fused with the Hogyoku?

Has anyone wondered about that?

Aizen has seen the SK once before as stated by Urahara. Presumably, Aizen also saw Ichibei and knows about him.

The Hogyoku’s power source is the Soul King’s Nail taken from Rangiku, and in the light novels, Ikkimikidomoe negates Ichimonji’s powers after absorbing a piece of the Soul King.

Can we give Aizen resistance to Ichibei’s Ichimonji based on this info?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I'd imagine so, but idk if they're ever explained outside of Komamura's moments.

 

[AppleLord]

What about animals? They seem to have their own dimension

Animals exist in SS. There was a deer and a salamander outside of Seireitei.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

What about animals? They seem to have their own dimension

They do if I recall the wolf men are from there. But we know nothing of it.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Why did Aizen needed to fused with the Hogyoku?

Unmasked says this about Aizen's goal: 藍染は霊王になり代わり、新しい世界を創造する。Which is basically saying that he wants to be god and create a new world. So I assumed he fused with the Hogyoku to become strong enough to replace the Soul King and create his envisioned world.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Animals exist in SS. There was a deer and a salamander outside of Seireitei.

I know there are animal on SS but they also mention a separate dimension for animals specifically

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Actually I just remember that there are hollow animals on HM also

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Tf could they have done

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Who knows lol. Maybe they were a part of the original world. The way the elder speaks does seem to indicate he knows things.

 

[Alive90Achilles]

Does anyone have the english novel scan where it says caja negacion=/=reishi?

 

[Tyri456]

The things is that all the points regarding the plot, the lore and the feat (soul flow/almighty being hax, the arrow and so on...) will be debunked and/or are already been debunked by Warren and Arc, because who made that downgrade thread has an extremely poor knowledge on Bleach and, dishonestly tried to attempt to dowgrande a verse by intentionally grasping various common missconceptions, and what is most surpirsing is people agreeing with blatant wrong informations, but again, they all get debunked. The wiki currently already acknowledge those points being wrong, yet they are still used incorreclty.

The only thing they can do/they are doing is abusing of the new rule they made, which is actually a fan-made rule created by them, because they get out-debated and debunked on missconceptions multiple times; that is only thing they have and they can rely on, and still not even enough since Yhwach was destroying everything with no soul flow being involved. Dude literally started destroying the enviroment by spreading his spiritual pressure everywhere saying he will use his own power to destroy and create another universe.

- "SoUl fLoW"

As I said that show, how the only thing they care is not having Bleach on that tier instead of really open their mind and trying to understand the work, the amount of nitpicking is inversely proportional to their knowledge on the subject.

 

[Torsin]

Are the chains of sin mentioned by him the chains of hell?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Are the chains of sin mentioned by him the chains of hell?

That's what they sounded like but unless we get a databook I don't think we can say for certain.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Well “hell of beast” “chains of sin” sound like hell to me.

 

[Torsin]

Hmmm..If it is indeed the chains of hell that they are attached to its wierd to see they arent dragged back into hell similar to Kokutos henchmen in the hellverse.

It seems their clan also has a method to sever the chains temporarily atleast. Damn Kokuto should have just gone after Komamura and the old guy. Could have saved himself from the ass whooping he recieved from Ichigo and his plot armour.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Well that is something from the movie and we’re not sure which things Kubo intended or didn’t intend since he seemed rather displeased.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

So Bleach Hub is streaming this and talking about the thread

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

So Bleach Hub is streaming this and talking about the thread

Oh really?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Hey arc u popular now

 

[00potato]

Yo Bleach Hub what’s poppin?

 

[00potato]

Wait nevermind its that guy.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Hey arc u popular now

Little old me!? What's he saying.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Little old me!? What's he saying.

He saying u are ichigo on the SS fighting everyone

And basically complimenting u

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Bouta use my Bankai Tensa Imade in the chat.

Due to stricter Low 2-C qualifications (it appears you need to destroy past, present, and future to qualify) it might end up changing the argument to just 3-A (destroy Bleach Universe). But apparently the tiering system page needs an updated explanation/definition.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Wait...So this entire time people have been upgrading some characters to tier 2 incorrectly because the page didn’t have the proper information or something?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Wait...So this entire time people have been upgrading some characters to tier 2 incorrectly because the page didn’t have the proper information or something?

Yeah apparently Low 2-C is destroying a universe's entire timeline. Which tbf the tiering system page never mentioned that. No conclusion on the thread has been made yet tho.

 

[Warren_Valion]

WHo is Bleach hub?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

WHo is Bleach hub?

Youtuber

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Can

Yeah apparently Low 2-C is destroying a universe's entire timeline. Which tbf the tiering system page never mentioned that. No conclusion on the thread has been made yet tho.

U have give a link?

 

[Zoro21043]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/tier-2-characters-crt.111439/#post-3528049