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Found it :
I wasn't trippin
Any idea which databook it's from?
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Found it :
I wasn't trippin
I found it, it's from the Masked databook, the part where it goes over the Turn Back The Pendulum chapters.Unfortunately no.
He may be a bastard like John Snow.Considering the other Nobles aren’t as built different as Aizen, he must secretly be a descendant of all five families.
It can be argued that something frozen can be very hard to break depending on the thickness of the ice.It can be argued that something which is completely frozen solid would break and shatter pretty easily
iirc that was the reason Byakuya's High 6-A rating was treated as a possibly for a year or two
I never said otherwiseIt can be argued that something frozen can be very hard to break depending on the thickness of the ice.
Which we sort of actually see happen with Gerard, Byakuya specifically destroyed Gerard's head, and then Gerard's entire frozen body collapsedThe way Toshiro describes his flash freeze is akin to AZ. When matter ceases to function akin to AZ, aka when there's no more energy to extract from the system, the durability of said matter basically is equal to zero. And if you were to be frozen to AZ, you'd crumble under your own weight.
Isn't Gerard resisting the ice to a certain degree though?Which we sort of actually see happen with Gerard, Byakuya specifically destroyed Gerard's head, and then Gerard's entire frozen body collapsed
But even then, you could technically argue that Toshiro's ice is relative to himself and Byakuya destroyed it so he'd be High 6-A regardless
Exactly.Which we sort of actually see happen with Gerard, Byakuya specifically destroyed Gerard's head, and then Gerard's entire frozen body collapsed
But even then, you could technically argue that Toshiro's ice is relative to himself and Byakuya destroyed it so he'd be High 6-A regardless
yesIsn't Gerard resisting the ice to a certain degree though?
Those are some fighting words if I've ever seen.Adult Toshiro and Post-RG Byakuya using Senkei and Hakuteiken are equivalent to potentially superior to TYBW Bankai Kenpachi.
Byakuya blocked an attack from final form Gerard with his petals when he sent Rukia and Renji to Ichigo.So Post-RG Bankai Byakuya does not scale to Gerard when using just the petals. It's only with Senkei (Ikka Senjinka is Senkei all at once) and Hakuteiken that Byakuya could damage Gerard.
And said petals were still unable to harm him and would fall under barely deflecting his hand like he did when he joined Toshiro, therefore not scaling to GerardByakuya blocked an attack from final form Gerard with his petals when he sent Rukia and Renji to Ichigo.
Those are not fighting words, they are the cold hard truth. Adult Hitsu and D0 Byakuya scale higher than any form of TYBW Zaraki based on their feats.Those are some fighting words if I've ever seen.
They're not and you'll lose regardless.Those are some fighting words if I've ever seen.
And Byakuya also failed to even scratch First Transformation Gerard's skin multiple times when Base Kenpachi did.Byakuya blocked an attack from final form Gerard with his petals when he sent Rukia and Renji to Ichigo.
Never lose when I never concede.They're not and you'll lose regardless.
You can argue it wasn't a all out blow because he was aiming for rukai and renji,he probably didn't think he need that much force. We also see Gerard slap away baykuyas petals in his first form and one shot him like it was nothing.Blocking attacks do allow you to scale, if only durability wise, just like we grant Orihime shiled durability.
Byakuya petals durability and defense potential would scale to FF Gerard.
Lets talk about those ComicVine concessions lolNever lose when I never concede.
No, the attack i'm talking about was aimed at Byakuya.You can argue it wasn't a all out blow because he was aiming for rukai and renji,he probably didn't think he need that much force. We also see Gerard slap away baykuyas petals in his first form and one shot him like it was nothing.
There is no scaling error when the feat happen on panel.And Byakuya also failed to even scratch First Transformation Gerard's skin multiple times when Base Kenpachi did.
So what logic are you going to use here to scale Byakuya's Petals to Final Transformation Gerard?
You realize you make a never-ending scaling error?
Byakuya's Petals = to Final Transformation Gerard > Bankai Kenpachi
BUT Base Kenpachi cutting off Gerard's hand > Byakuya's Petals not even scratching Gerard's hands.
Don't make this mistake.
Byakuya easily blocking Final Form Gerard mean he no sell all of TYBW BanKen's attacks with negative diff.Gerard slicing off an almost unconscious BanKen's arm =/= cutting off an on guard BanKen's arm. At best Gerard scales to BanKen's passive durability, which is below his "active" stats. So no, Byakuya and Toshiro are not "at least" BanKen level. They're probably all roughly comparable with their strongest forms/techniques in the TYBW. Although, not like TYBW BanKen can even release his full power without tearing himself apart anyhow, so L for Kenpachi.
Not inherently there’s no connection between the twoByakuya easily blocking Final Form Gerard mean he no sell all of TYBW BanKen's attacks with negative diff.
BanKen best feats are far below FF Gerard wich Byakuya blocked. Implying he is remotely on FF Gerard's level is fanfictionNot inherently there’s no connection between the two
They aren’t… they’re unquantifiably above the Gerard he was fighting. You can’t make a claim on what its limits are. All we know is he was massively above the Gerard he fought. As is FF Gerard, to what degree each are stronger, who knows.BanKen best feats are far below FF Gerard wich Byakuya blocked. Implying he is remotely on FF Gerard's level is fanfiction
He ripped himself appart and K.O'd himself trying to attack Viking Gerard...and have no feats fighting this form or higher. Hitsu and Byakuya do have feats fighting Viking Gerard and even defeated him.They aren’t… they’re unquantifiably above the Gerard he was fighting. You can’t make a claim on what its limits are. All we know is he was massively above the Gerard he fought. As is FF Gerard, to what degree each are stronger, who knows.
BanKen blew off his arm in response to 1st form Vollstandig Gerard's power, who had directly gotten miracle amps from his previous strikes making this version of Gerard > BanKen's available power pretty consistent, this level of logic is like saying we haven't seen anything stop Renji's Zagga Teppo and therefore he would incinerate Schutzstaffel tier fightersThey aren’t… they’re unquantifiably above the Gerard he was fighting. You can’t make a claim on what its limits are. All we know is he was massively above the Gerard he fought. As is FF Gerard, to what degree each are stronger, who knows.
It’s all unquantifiable amps is my point.He ripped himself appart and K.O'd himself trying to attack Viking Gerard...and have no feats fighting this form or higher. Hitsu and Byakuya do have feats fighting Viking Gerard and even defeated him.
Byakuya and Toshiro have actual feats. Banken only have "Maybe".
No, that's wrong.Gerard slicing off an almost unconscious BanKen's arm =/= cutting off an on guard BanKen's arm. At best Gerard scales to BanKen's passive durability, which is below his "active" stats. So no, Byakuya and Toshiro are not "at least" BanKen level. They're probably all roughly comparable with their strongest forms/techniques in the TYBW. Although, not like TYBW BanKen can even release his full power without tearing himself apart anyhow, so L for Kenpachi.
But Kenpachi could match Hikone.No, that's wrong.
Second Form Gerard is equal to Bankai Kenpachi due to Miracle converting the damage and power that Bankai Kenpachi dealt to "kill" the First Transformation (cutting it in half with Bankai). This directly means that Adult Toshiro and Byakuya with Senkei and Hakuteiken scale to or above Bankai Kenpachi.
Also, we can't ignore Second Form Gerard cutting off Bankai Kenpachi's arm off. Nothing dictates nor states that Kenpachi's durability was lowered, being injured from his arm tearing off doesn't lower his overall durability, Bleach character's lose their arms every day.
So yes, Adult Toshiro and Senkei/Hakuteiken Byakuya scale to or above Bankai Kenpachi.
That's CFYOW Kenpachi, not TYBW Kenpachi.But Kenpachi could match Hikone.
Kenny blew off his elbow but when Gerard slams him into the ground with Hoffnung, his arm is cut off at the shoulder along with the sleeve of his shihakusho.Wait, why are people saying Gerard cut off Kenpachi's arm? Yachiru pretty much states that her releasing too much of Kenpachi's power caused that as his body was unable to handle it.