PrettyVixenGirl
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Not sure must be the reappear phase
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Except that the scan clearly shows Aislingerr leaving the smoke via movement, Uryu calls it Sonido, speaks about his Hirenkyaku in the present tense, and Aislingerr is shook that Uryu can keep up with his Sonido in the present tense. It’s blatantly not teleportation. Shunsui even comments on Starrk’s Sonido being so fast that it almost seems like teleportation, not that it is.Not sure must be the reappear phase
If Sonido is teleportation, it doesn’t matter how good you are with it as it will still be teleportation. Even Zommari says that he moves so fast he creates after images. Moves, not teleports.Also Aislinger is not a advanced user of the Sonido.
Just to add this
Also Sonido doesnt use Reiatsu
Okay so where does it actually say you can’t be hit mid Sonido? Because I already brought scans that show them physically moving for Sonido.There's also a difference between a jump and flash step or sonido. Sometimes bleach characters take really far or fast jumps without disappearing and these are usually the characters natural speed. Those steps only apply to the disappear phase. Which they do move faster than their natural movement during that vanish aspect. But difference is obviously if I jump you can hit me but if I sonido you aren't able to
In Cfyow chapter 8-9 it says that Sonido doesnt use reiatsu.Except that the scan clearly shows Aislingerr leaving the smoke via movement, Uryu calls it Sonido, speaks about his Hirenkyaku in the present tense, and Aislingerr is shook that Uryu can keep up with his Sonido in the present tense. It’s blatantly not teleportation. Shunsui even comments on Starrk’s Sonido being so fast that it almost seems like teleportation, not that it is.
If Sonido is teleportation, it doesn’t matter how good you are with it as it will still be teleportation. Even Zommari says that he moves so fast he creates after images. Moves, not teleports.
There must be some hidden gem of a scan outside of the manga to support this because the manga sure as hell doesn’t. Also, didn’t Hikone fuse all the high speed movement techniques together for his time dilating movement? Even more evidence that teleportation is wrong.
Okay? That has nothing to do with it being teleportation. It literally doesn’t support or debunk either side of the argument.In Cfyow chapter 8-9 it says that Sonido doesnt use reiatsu.
They dont exert reiatsu using it.
Sure, it does indicate it works on a different system of power which could help in a debate.Okay? That has nothing to do with it being teleportation. It literally doesn’t support or debunk either side of the argument.
Except that they are speaking about it in the present tense. You need to ignore what is on the page to not get this?Or he could be referring to after he reappeared again and uryu was still right there.
What do you mean limited? In what way is it limited if he can go from point A to point B without having to physically cross the distance as the entire stance of “Sonido = teleportation” implies. It’s not like Flying Thunder God where markers are required to go to somewhere which is an actual limitation.But I said limited teleportion so idrc about it not being standard teleportion cause clearly it isn't.
Except for the fact that Byakuya literally tags and kills Zommari’s Sonido clones which is just him using Sonido a lot. It’s quite literally them just being really fast.But doesn't change the fact a character has not ever been hitting during flash step or sonido and only after they appear again unless you wanna call it invisibility plus intangible which isn't accurate either
That jump was him in the middle of using Sonido. They literally tell us he is in the middle of using Sonido.And the scan you showed he looked like he was in the jump phase after a character reappears again cause he did actually vanish briefly.
This doesn’t matter at all tho. If Sonido = teleport, every Sonido is teleportation. Not just the ones who are good at it. You can’t cherry pick what is and isn’t teleportation when the very premise of your argument is that it is all teleportation.So basically that person you showed has a really trash sonido
A different power system doesn’t help nor hinder the fact that it is teleportation or not.Sure, it does indicate it works on a different system of power which could help in a debate.
That just means that it can bypass ESP? How do you go from a stated trait of a power to assuming it’s a completely different ability?Also Sonido did get completely past Ulqiorra Pesquisa who is able to use it to monitor his enemies' location in the event he can't see them.
……… because the person is moving really fast -_-Why you think characters get surprised when users use sonido or shunpo. Because they lose sight. It may be brief but they do. So if someone does not get surprised during your step it means
This is just throwing words onto the page. None of this is relevant.They were able to react to your vanish thus if you reappear again would have enough time to defend against your attack. Some characters do that dumb "Uh!" Sound when you vanish because they couldn't react to your vanish and some characters don't care at all. Because if you can react to the vanish it means they aren't that fast. But if you can't if means when they reappear again you will have trouble reacting to their attack if you can
You really are.I'm not ignoring the present. Lets look at it like this
Literally no. We see him coming out of the dust cloud, in the next panel we see speed lines for a background, Uryu pulls up next to him, Aislingerr questions how a human can keep up with Sonido, Uryu says that he is built different and that Hirenkyaku is (and pay attention to this next part) faster than Shunpo and Sonido, speed lines are still the background for this entire exchange.He vanishes. He's going to travel faster than his normal speed. He reappears again and uryu is there again. How are you keeping up with shunpo means how did he cross the distance he just did and uryu ill be next to him.
You literally didn’t look at the scans I sent and spewed your own headcanon as fact.That's literally all that is
Because maybe, and bear with me on this, maybe the guy moving fast is moving too fast fast for his opp during his high-speed movement. Absolutely wild notion, I know.because the person is moving really fast ok then why do characters only get hit after they reappear again. And 2, this also applied to God tiers. Has never ever hit summoning during either of those movement techniques. So its saying even faster characters can't react to your movement? Really doesn't make sense.
Are you for real rn? Tf do you think SPEED lines are for? They are meant to denote how something is moving fast.Wtf do speed lines matter a character can get a speed line for doing a basic jump or moving running
…….. so can you explain why speed lines are shown for the background of your supposed teleportation?Yes they indicated someone is moving fast and you can jump fast they do this entire bleach series
Stop going off on this weird jumping tangent. You said that Sonido = teleportation. One of my many counter arguments (and not even a primary one) was that speed lines are used for the background of said “teleportation” and you have already agreed that they are used to denote X moving really fast. That means that it goes directly against your stance, hence why it is relevant.Idk characters in bleach jump fast all the time so I don't really get why that matters
You … don’t see how something you agree has been universally used in the series for speed being used for a technique that is repeatedly stated to be high speed movement, indicates that said high speed movement is in fact movement?My point was you can get a speed lines for doing a basic jump i see speed lines throughout the whole series for shit as simple as sword strikes I don't really see how its an indication of sonido.
They are quite literally talking mid Sonido on panel and confirm that it’s during the Sonido.Im saying when uryu caught up to him his step was already over which is why he asked if that was all a sonido can do. Because he didn't move very far or fast which is why he caught up to him. Sonido is a teleportion.
Except for the fact that they say it’s during Sonido when Aislingerr thinks “there’s no way a human can keep up with a Sonido”, Uryu says “you’re pretty fast” and “my high speed movement is faster than yours” while using his high speed movement?That guy was not in sonido when he was talking.
Where is any of this stated? All of this is nothing but headcanon and directly contradicted by the scans I sent of people processing stuff and talking during the Sonido. That dude can be trash all you want but it still doesn’t debunk the fact that they did exactly what you asserted they couldn’t during Sonido.In fact ppl that use sonido are more like on auto pilot. Gou don't speak or even process anything until you reappear again. It's like your brain is turned off never in my life seen someone talk during a sonido or even flash step unless the step was already over I called that dude trash bc he has a small step
Can't change their mind becauseIf its called high speed movement and is likened to flash step and Hirenkayaku its not teleportation
They know how it works because they made bleach sprite battles in the past so they get exactly how the animation works.
They're just gonna hit you with the "why hasn't anyone fought/get hit mid Sonido then" spam"Sonído (響転 (ソニード), Sonīdo; Spanish for "Sound", Japanese for "Reverberating Turn") is a high-speed movement technique of the Arrancar. It is equivalent to the Shinigami's Shunpo and the Quincy's Hirenkyaku, which are roughly equal in terms of speed."
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As in SS arc Shikai? Yes. FB Ichigo = Tsukishima = LAA Byakuya > HM Byakuya > Monkey Yammy > all the Espada > Grimmjow >>> SS Bankai Ichigo > SS Shikai Ichigo.Just came to mind of a discussion. Is Fullbring Mastered Ichigo (With Ginjo's help) stronger than First Shikai Ichigo or is it weaker or the same?
Alright thanks for the information.As in SS arc Shikai? Yes. FB Ichigo = Tsukishima = LAA Byakuya > HM Byakuya > Monkey Yammy > all the Espada > Grimmjow >>> SS Bankai Ichigo > SS Shikai Ichigo.
That's a good question. For me, he didn't lose his skill. He just forgot how to use his old ability, strength and skill. (Since he sealed his powers to a state where his equal to his opponent.) About the part where if Kenpachi is stronger than Unohana is unsure though.A question of my own that I was thinking about. Anyone know if Kenny post Muken scales to Unohana in skill since he had to be keeping up with her at some points in his many fights since he forces her to use other stuff besides pure sword skill?