BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[EldemadeDityjon]

Ichigo breathes and y’all go “write that hax down” I swear

He doesn’t have fate hax

I would say supernatural luck and possibility manipulation ( constantly changes his fate according to his wish but without knowing which path he took )

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Conclusion: y’all mrks

 

[skippy]

Ichigo breathes and y’all go “write that hax down” I swear

He doesn’t have fate hax

Why is it a bad thing trying to add as much as possible to Ichigo, other Characters have gotten abilities for far less.
If it can be argued, why not argue it?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Conclusion: y’all mrks

Yhwach saw Ichibē fate and that clearly happened .

But he wasn't see Ichigo fate constantly. It shows Ichigo fate was changing during their battle.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I can argue the earth is flat, does that mean we say the earth is possibly flat there is a difference between probability and feasibility. Albeit none of that stops you from proposing a CRT.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Pretty much Yhwach got shocked HOS and GRC. If Ichigo fate was already set he would have seen that.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

You need to reread the fight, Yhwach didn’t turn on the Almighty until Ichigo went Bankai, smh

 

[Reio35]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/927311114432311428/928030474465607811/unknown.png

Bleach memories of the soul also imply they transcended their fates

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Almighty wasn't even active when Yhwach faught Ichibē. Also Yhwach made a comment on Ichibē dying before the fight start

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

You need to reread the fight, Yhwach didn’t turn on the Almighty until Ichigo went Bankai, smh

Almighty wasn't even active when Yhwach faught Ichibē. Also Yhwach made a comment on Ichibē dying before the fight start

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Yeah I can read your message the first time bubba. Yhwach being cocky is not proof he literally foresaw Ichibe’s fate without the Almighty. Yhwach could’ve just known he’d get the Almighty back during the fight.

 

[YukaSama4]

You need to reread the fight, Yhwach didn’t turn on the Almighty until Ichigo went Bankai, smh

wrong, he turned on Almighty before against HoS Ichigo

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Ichigo should get resistance to all of Yhwachs powers.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

The thing is he saw Ichibē death and he also made a comment on how he would die but Yhwach couldn't see exactly Ichigo fate.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

wrong, he turned on Almighty before against HoS Ichigo

After GRC GT*

 

[YukaSama4]

After GRC GT*

yup
Idk what are u all arguing tho

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

The thing is he saw Ichibē death and he also made a comment on how he would die but Yhwach couldn't see exactly Ichigo fate.

Yhwach being cocky =/= he literally foresaw Ichibe’s death pre Almighty. Aizen claimed Yama would die, does Aizen have future sight and Yama fate manip now? Let’s not kid ourselves.

 

[YukaSama4]

Yhwach saw Ichibe’s death with almighty 1000 years ago

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Yama probably should get resistence to future sight

 

[Reio35]

I think yhwach just predicted that would happen. But then again his almighty activated just in time. So maybe his future sight is limited with his eyes closed

 

[YukaSama4]

Yama probably should get resistence to future sight

what?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Yhwach made comments on everyone but he only took precautions on Yama and never said anything about Yama future.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I’ve heard it all now. Holy ***** faith = losing

 

[Girronki]

ichigo wasnt changing fate lol, he was more stepping into different alternate futures and yhwach was just seeing them all.

 

[YukaSama4]

Yhwach was only speaking on how when u make a choice/ make development, you jump to a different future than the one u were in (if u didn't make that strength development u would have died against this punch for example) so when u made the choice to change, u got to a different future, there are possibilities for what u can do/ what are u going to do, and with ur choices u are moving from one possibility to another one, however, Yhwach can see all of that from high above and even change those possibilities to what he desired.

At least this is how I've always understood it

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Precisely

 

[skippy]

You know for what its worth with Yhwach being able to change fate and future, he still couldnt stop himself being defeated.
L Yhwach

 

[Reio35]

Yhwach saw Ichibe’s death with almighty 1000 years ago

Actually he didn't. Yhwach in the begining of the fight said Ichibei will die 3 steps short of of the line. Later on he kills him 3 steps short of the line.

Then he says he saw all of that with his eyes closed. So this is without almighty

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/917903456113672212/936710111664152656/0609-012.png

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

You know for what its worth with Yhwach being able to change fate and future, he still couldnt stop himself being defeated.
L Yhwach

I have been saying same thing

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Make the Ichigo fate manip CRT

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Actually he didn't. Yhwach in the begining of the fight said Ichibei will die 3 steps short of of the line. Later on he kills him 3 steps short of the line.

Then he says he saw all of that with his eyes closed. So this is without almighty

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/917903456113672212/936710111664152656/0609-012.png

I was about to find the scan anyway great

 

[Reio35]

ichigo wasnt changing fate lol, he was more stepping into different alternate futures and yhwach was just seeing them all.

Which yhwach says is changing fate. That's how he won all his fights

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I am Missing AppleLord right now .

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

3 Goon Musketeers: R A N

 

[YukaSama4]

He lost because he misunderstood his own ability, he saw Ichigo killing him but thought that it was a dream, this is clearly stated in the manga, even Jugram according to CFYOW saw that Ichigo will kill Yhwach and they will lose the war, are you going to say now that Jugram future sight > Yhwach?

Which yhwach says is changing fate. That's how he won all his fights

Yhwach in that context said that fate = possibility and explained that Ichigo is just moving from one possibility to another, u are arguing using ur headcanon not what the manga literally explains

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

He lost because he misunderstood his own ability, he saw Ichigo killing him but thought that it was a dream, this is clearly stated in the manga, even Jugram according to CFYOW saw that Ichigo will kill Yhwach and they will lose the war, are you going to say now that Jugram future sight > Yhwach?

Yhwach in that context said that fate = possibility and explained that Ichigo is just moving from one possibility to another, u are arguing using ur headcanon not what the manga literally explains

He seeing the future itself is a possibility. The path that leaded to that possibility because of Ichigo unless you say Jugram almighty> SK amped Almighty

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Make the CRT

 

[skippy]

Make the CRT

What the point, this just a theory.
What gets approved on this site is really inconsistent and depends on which verse you are arguing it for.
I noticed through countless crt,many mods simply dont like Bleach scaling.
But this is how i see it, not that my opinion matters

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Biases are bound to exist everywhere but the scaling on this site for Bleach isn’t that bad like TikTok scalers like to tote.

 

[YukaSama4]

He seeing the future itself is a possibility. The path that leaded to that possibility because of Ichigo unless you say Jugram almighty> SK amped Almighty

Yhwach can see all the possibilities from high above and change them as he likes, while Ichigo is only jumping from one possibility to another which anyone can do in Bleach via making decisions/choices/changes with yourself.

here, and here Yhwach literally says that Ichigo is only jumping from one possibility to the other one via evolving his strength through battles which is what I explained to u all above:

Yhwach was only speaking on how when u make a choice/ make development, you jump to a different future than the one u were in (if u didn't make that strength development u would have died against this punch for example) so when u made the choice to change, u got to a different future, there are possibilities for what u can do/ what are u going to do, and with ur choices u are moving from one possibility to another one, however, Yhwach can see all of that from high above and even change those possibilities to what he desired.