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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Deceived said:
Sure.

Top 10 based off of Strength (AP and Not including former Espada like Nel).

1. Nnoitra

2. Yammy

3. Ulquiorra

4. Barragan

5. Starkk

6. Harribel

7. Grimmjow

8. Szyael

9. Arannario (Or how ever you spell his name)

10. Zommari
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You deadass?
 
Anywhay , i will drop my list, they will be divided in tiers based on who i think can potencially beat the others on the same tier, this will also include hax and speed not only AP, if you guys got some doubt on the placements you can ask me or the nearest cockroach, we are probrably the same person
Tier A :
0 : barragan : CFYOW and SAFWY scaling, those novels sure have barragan's bones on their mouths
Tier B :
1/2/3/4 :
post timeskip grimm,nel and halli, as well as original szayel, via they all having scaling who puts then far above rage form yammy
Tier C :
5/6/7/8/9 :
yammy/starkk/halli/ulqui/zommari, yeah i think that espada 0-4 are comparable in power , zommari is here because of being the fastest espada (at least pre-timeskip) and having busted hax
Tier D :
10/11/12 :
nnoitra/grimm/nel, nel is far bellow the likes of halli, nnoitra has the hardest hierro but there are many ways to work around that, grimm is cool but he was always supposed to be one of the lesser espada and only a stepping stone for ichigo
Tier E :
13/14 :
Szayel/aaroniero , unforgivens implies they are comparable, and szayel has trash physical feats, homever the rank means he has higher reiatsu and he also got better hax

Ulquiorra the dumbass : but what about luppi and the privarons ?
Me ( an intellectual ) : what about luppi and the privarons ?
 
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Theendzero13 said:
Anywhay , i will drop my list, they will be divided in tiers based on who i think can potencially beat the others on the same tier, this will also include hax and speed not only AP, if you guys got some doubt on the placements you can ask me or the nearest cockroach, we are probrably the same person
Tier A :
0 : barragan : CFYOW and SAFWY scaling, those novels sure have barragan's bones on their mouths
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Hm. What do you think 🤔 can Ulqioura Lanza can pass thru respira.
Theendzero13 said:
Tier B :
1/2/3/4 :
post timeskip grimm,nel and halli, as well as original szayel, via they all having scaling who puts than far above rage form yammy
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Reatsu wise still 2nd Release Ulqioura and Star should be higher right.
Theendzero13 said:
Tier C :
5/6/7/8/9 :
yammy/starkk/halli/ulqui/zommari, yeah i think that espada 0-4 are comparable in power , zommari is here because of being the fastest espada (at least pre-timeskip)
Tier D :
10/11/12 :
nnoitra/grimm/nel, nel is far bellow the likes of halli, nnoitra has the hardest hierro but there are many ways to work around that, grimm is cool but he was always supposed to be one of the lesser espada and only a stepping stone for ichigo
Tier E :
13/14 :
aaroniero/szayel , unforgivens implies they are comparable, and szayel has trash physical feats

Ulquiorra the dumbass : but what about luppi and the privarons ?
Me ( an intellectual ) : what about luppi and the privarons ?
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Can't say anything about this 😑
 
Deceived said:
Zommari being 2nd got a grown-man crying.

😭
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i adore zommari's concept of a voodoo god high on power, and the mental wreck he becomes when his one (admittedly overpowered) ability stops working. his speech on hollows is also really cool and a shame it wasn't expanded on
 
Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
Hm. What do you think 🤔 can Ulqioura Lanza can pass thru respira.

Reatsu wise still 2nd Release Ulqioura and Star should be higher right.

Can't say anything about this 😑
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1: nah , if cien cannot pass through respira neither can ulqui
2 : don't think so to be honest all of the fake karakura town espada are comparable in terms of reiatsu and halli got massively stronger
 
Theendzero13 said:
2 : don't think so to be honest all of the fake karakura town espada are comparable in terms of reiatsu and halli got massively stronger
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That was in their base, tbh I don't think they are at the same level in res, Toshiro almost killed Hallibel with his attack, Starrk was surprised and asked who is stronger Toshiro or Shunsui, Shunsui said Toshiro needs 100 years to become at his level, Starrk got more curious to see his Bankai, if Starrk in his res ~ Hallibel res, he wouldn't have tried to force Shunsui into his Bankai, but rather he will try to finish him quickly
Theendzero13 said:
1: nah , if cien cannot pass through respira neither can ulqui
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Where is that from?
 
Theendzero13 said:
Anywhay , i will drop my list, they will be divided in tiers based on who i think can potencially beat the others on the same tier, this will also include hax and speed not only AP, if you guys got some doubt on the placements you can ask me or the nearest cockroach, we are probrably the same person
Tier A :
0 : barragan : CFYOW and SAFWY scaling, those novels sure have barragan's bones on their mouths
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that’s because Narita is bad in powerscaling, I’m wondering how much things gonna change when Kubo will drop the new arc especially with kenpachi
 
YukaSama4 said:
That was in their base, tbh I don't think they are at the same level in res, Toshiro almost killed Hallibel with his attack, Starrk was surprised and asked who is stronger Toshiro or Shunsui, Shunsui said Toshiro needs 100 years to become at his level, Starrk got more curious to see his Bankai, if Starrk in his res ~ Hallibel res, he wouldn't have tried to force Shunsui into his Bankai, but rather he will try to finish him quickly
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Yeah about this, shunsui is so much stronger than starkk that the guy could not even damage him with a regular cero, being forced to use stuff like metrallera or los lobos
 
Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
Actually I am referring to Ikko statement. Barragan> Grimmjow in Reatsu.
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I don't think that statement is refering to reiatsu TBH , it seens like a mix of iko trashing grimm due to him being a young arrancar who dares to call himself king+barragan having an insane hax that iko respected
 
Tyri456 said:
that’s because Narita is bad in powerscaling, I’m wondering how much things gonna change when Kubo will drop the new arc especially with kenpachi
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Or it’s just referencing a prime Baraggan. We know characters can grow weaker with complacency (Yoruichi), Baraggan was quite complacent in his old age. The Baraggan Iko knee was during the early days (thousands of years before the start of the story), nothing says young/prime Baraggan is the same strength as old/Espada Baraggan.

Narita ain’t bad with the powerscaling y’all just need copium
 
Theendzero13 said:
Yeah about this, shunsui is so much stronger than starkk that the guy could not even damage him with a regular cero, being forced to use stuff like metrallera or los lobos
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I think Stark definitely Stronger than Halibel.
Atleast in Reatsu level. I don't Aizen was some idiot to put him above Halibel if Stark was weaker than her.
 
Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
I think Stark definitely Stronger than Halibel.
Atleast in Reatsu level. I don't Aizen was some idiot to put him above Halibel if Stark was weaker than her.
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He is stronger than halli , because of slightly higher reiatsu+better abilities, but the difference ain't an abyss , and halli can probrably win if she shoots a gran rey in close range
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Or it’s just referencing a prime Baraggan. We know characters can grow weaker with complacency (Yoruichi), Baraggan was quite complacent in his old age. The Baraggan Iko knee was during the early days (thousands of years before the start of the story), nothing says young/prime Baraggan is the same strength as old/Espada Baraggan.

Narita ain’t bad with the powerscaling y’all just need copium
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Author doesn’t really think like that, this is something we make up to justify scaling, and no I don’t need copium since I agree with that scaling proposed by Narita regardless because of evidences, this is just my opinion about what will happen in the future which is based on Kubo view of things, I could be wrong obviously

Edit: narita is not bad, just that Kubo is way better
 
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