BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Theendzero13]

I also think that zommari : fastest espada, like the statements and feats are on his side , especially if you read SAFWY

 

[Loyd]

What are the statement/feats for zoom in safwy?

 

[T2KBaka]

dragons are summoned and they start absorbing the energy of the environment and anything they touch, that way they become way more powerful and then strike at the enemy

That clearly didn't happen with Madara

 

[Theendzero13]

What are the statement/feats for zoom in safwy?

Basically roca used her powers to copy zommari's sonido and it allowed her to dodge a lot of cien's ceros ( cien : far above any espada ) ,
despite the fact that it was likely slower due to it only creating 4 clones, while zommari could do 5

IIRC there is a reason she copied his sonido instead of any other espada's

 

[PrettyVixenGirl]

Sounds like its made to counter a quincy since they can gain power from their environment

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

That clearly didn't happen with Madara

Madara's PS is actually specifically designed to counter Hashirama's energy absorption. That's why it didn't work.

 

[T2KBaka]

Madara's PS is actually specifically designed to counter Hashirama's energy absorption. That's why it didn't work.

Fair enough

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

That clearly didn't happen with Madara

u mean from the VS of a video that had so many things wrong?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Sounds like its made to counter a quincy since they can gain power from their environment

it can just be used for a massively powerful attack (well, 5 powerful attacks)

 

[Reio35]

Hado 99 uses the earth's energy to make dragons. However kisuke can modify his to work with reshi

 

[T2KBaka]

u mean from the VS of a video that had so many things wrong?

Yessir

 

[Deceived3596]

Continuation of the "Respira" argument.

 

[Thehunter077]

You guys forgot Kubo says big breats=quality of characters?

 

[AppleLord]

Madara's PS is actually specifically designed to counter Hashirama's energy absorption. That's why it didn't work.

Does Susano’o have feats against energy absorption? Or that comes from us assuming Hashirama never tried that ability on his Susano’o?

 

[T2KBaka]

You guys forgot Kubo says big breats=quality of characters?

Man of culture fr

 

[T2KBaka]

Does Susano’o have feats against energy absorption? Or that comes from us assuming Hashirama never tried that ability on his Susano’o?

Hashirama's absorption techniques didn't work on it.

 

[Loyd]

Does Susano’o have feats against energy absorption? Or that comes from us assuming Hashirama never tried that ability on his Susano’o?

theres a large wooden dragon where it absorbs energy if it bites you and the smaller dragons by wrapping around you absorbs you're energy aswell.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Does Susano’o have feats against energy absorption? Or that comes from us assuming Hashirama never tried that ability on his Susano’o?

Databook, I think, Cyber showed it to me a while ago, it was legit from my memory.

 

[T2KBaka]

Databook, I think, Cyber showed it to me a while ago, it was legit from my memory.

It's on Madara's page on the resistances section

 

[YukaSama4]

Btw Omayda implied that Soifon is the fastest captain during FKT

Now you can argue that everyone was training before the battle in FKT so there is no way for Omaeda to know, however this will definitely mean that Soifon was the fastest pre Arrancar arc.

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

u mean from the VS of a video that had so many things wrong?

"Hogyoku is too vague to use"

Pepega

 

[PrettyVixenGirl]

Yea if she was fastest why do we assume byakuya is faster just because he fought zommari?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Btw Omayda implied that Soifon is the fastest captain during FKT

Now you can argue that everyone was training before the battle in FKT so there is no way for Omaeda to know, however this will definitely mean that Soifon was the fastest pre Arrancar arc.

Yeah. Pretty much it would be the case for SS soifon > SS Byakuya.

But Arrancar Arc Byakuya trained so it's pretty much Byakuya should be faster than Soifon in arrancar Arc by fighting zomari.

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

Do we have a way to make Lille scale to Gerard's regen? :thonk:

 

[YukaSama4]

Nope

 

[AppleLord]

theres a large wooden dragon where it absorbs energy if it bites you and the smaller dragons by wrapping around you absorbs you're energy aswell.

Scan?

 

[Loyd]

Scan?

I think what Arc had with the databooks are way more solid but i pulled it from the wood dragon wiki and scan on hashirama's profile.

 

[AppleLord]

From the Hell Arc, 3rd seat of the 7th division, Miyari Iba. Is this character canon? Is she from the light novels? There was a different substitue vice-captain in the novels until Atau Rindo was revealed in the manga. Where is this from?

 

[AppleLord]

I think what Arc had with the databooks are way more solid but i pulled it from the wood dragon wiki and scan on hashirama's profile.

Isn't that Edo Madara with Infinite Chakra? What proof is there that the dragon didn't absorbed his chakra? Is supposed to be infinite, so it wouldn't matter in this version.

• Hashirama noted that the chakra absorption feature of this technique negates the Chakra Absorption Techniques of a bound target.

Interesting, Hashirama's wood dragons negates Madara's Rinnegan or could also negate Hado 99.

Chapter 641 Madara (Madara Uchiha would also counter it with his Susanoo, deflecting its attempts to drain his chakra with a sword.)

Chapter 656 Madara was trapped and didn't used his Susano'o to escape, so it doesn't have resistance to energy absorbtion. Even the wiki says, he deflected the attemp with his sword.

 

[T2KBaka]

Btw Omayda implied that Soifon is the fastest captain during FKT

Now you can argue that everyone was training before the battle in FKT so there is no way for Omaeda to know, however this will definitely mean that Soifon was the fastest pre Arrancar a

I wouldn't call Omeada a reliable source since he's also known to overexaggerate things and also isn't knowledgeable on a lot of things

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Ichigo: I can’t slam your face into the ground if I don’t get closer.

Aizen: well then come as close as you like

 

[Reio35]

I wouldn't call Omeada a reliable source since he's also known to overexaggerate things and also isn't knowledgeable on a lot of things

Aizen complemented her speed and in one of the fan books her and yamamoto has the highest speed stats.

She was later blitzed by tanjiro in the tybw arc.

So tanjiro >>>>>soifon>>>>gotei 13 in speed

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

She was later blitzed by tanjiro in the tybw arc.

So tanjiro >>>>>soifon>>>>gotei 13 in speed

Tenjiro*

Well Shunsui has better feats in TYBW Arc than any captains when comes to speed. If it's soifon pretty she would have gotten one shoted by Lille.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Aizen complemented her speed and in one of the fan books her and yamamoto has the highest speed stats.

She was later blitzed by tanjiro in the tybw arc.

So tanjiro >>>>>soifon>>>>gotei 13 in speed

"tanjiro"

.....smfh

 

[T2KBaka]

Tenjiro*

Well Shunsui has better feats in TYBW Arc than any captains when comes to speed. If it's soifon pretty she would have gotten one shoted by Lille.

Nah it was Tanjiro, who is faster than Muzan.

Tanjiro >>> Soi fon >>> Goated 13

 

[YukaSama4]

I have no problem with taking Omaeda statement as an evidence to SS Soifon faster than SS Byakuya, however he isnt reliable when it comes to arrancar arc captains.

 

[PrettyVixenGirl]

Yea tho why would we assume the arrancar arc captains faster on flip slide

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Nah it was Tanjiro, who is faster than Muzan.

Tanjiro >>> Soi fon >>> Goated 13

Tanjiro speed blitzes Yama

 

[PrettyVixenGirl]

Halibel should be superior to yama cause she wasn't scared of his reiatsu and was confident she could take him after seeing his shikai

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Halibel should be superior to yama cause she wasn't scared of his reiatsu and was confident she could take him after seeing his shikai

Grimmjow should scale to TS ICHIGO~ Mugetsu > Monster Aizen because he wasn't scared of TS ICHIGO .