BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[AppleLord]

Neither. I’m saying Hollow reiatsu infected their bodies like a virus, caused them to mutate, and made them go berserk. Sure maybe they were possessed by the Hollows, but nothing really proves that verbatim, it’s just a hypothesis.

White told Ichigo he would take over his body aka possess him and he did in the Ulquiorra fight.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

White told Ichigo he would take over his body aka possess him and he did in the Ulquiorra fight.

White can take over Ichigo body if he feels like it. Even when he fought yammy he took over control. Same goes for Byakuya fight.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

White told Ichigo he would take over his body aka possess him and he did in the Ulquiorra fight.

Remember when I said “it should be limited possession because White can take over Ichigo’s (his host’s) body”… mrk

I mean if you feel so strongly about White having regular possession as opposed to limited then make a CRT for it.

 

[AppleLord]

Remember when I said “it should be limited possession because White can take over Ichigo’s (his host’s) body”… mrk

I mean if you feel so strongly about White having regular possession as opposed to limited then make a CRT for it.

White took over Ichigo’s body because he is his inner hollow. All Vizards and Ginjo are stated to have an inner hollow too.

 

[geezis]

is it implied or stated that yama is suppressing himself in bankai.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Correct, you're entirely missing my point...

Nothing indicates that White Zangetsu can go and possess Byakuya, or Rukia, or Kenpachi, etc.

However, we see White possess Ichigo. Hence the Limited Possession, he's only displayed the capabilities to possess his host, Ichigo.

 

[AppleLord]

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Correct, you're entirely missing my point...

Nothing indicates that White Zangetsu can go and possess Byakuya, or Rukia, or Kenpachi, etc.

However, we see White possess Ichigo. Hence the Limited Possession, he's only displayed the capabilities to possess his host, Ichigo.

I think you are confusing White with White Zangetsu. We talking about two different whites in this discussion. They became two different entities. Two different profiles. I never argued against White Zangetsu having limited possession.

 

[PrettyVixenGirl]

Hmm

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

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I think you are confusing White with White Zangetsu. We talking about two different whites in this discussion. They became two different entities. Two different profiles. I never argued against White Zangetsu having limited possession.

They're not inherently different, the Hollow that attacked Masaki is where Ichigo draws his Hollow powers from. Furthermore, White never possessed Masaki, he never took control of Masaki, he only infected her with lethal Hollow reiatsu. What happened to Masaki is not possession.

 

[T2KBaka]

Yeah I dunno how you're trying to get possession when he never actually possessed and took control over her, it's just infecting her. Like possession would be something like ghostfreak from Ben 10 going inside someone and controlling them.

 

[M11UTD]

Anyone got the databook statement that says Yama was the fastest among the captains in FKT arc?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

for what i remember white is different from zangetsu, cus zangetsu is a fusion of White and his shinigami powers

 

[T2KBaka]

for what i remember white is different from zangetsu, cus zangetsu is a fusion of White and his shinigami powers

Sure, but even White (Hollow only), didn't actually possess her. He just infected her and caused her into going soul suicide or whatever. Ghostfreak from Ben 10 is a perfect example of what possession is. White (Zangetsu) having partial possession makes sense cuz he can take over only Ichigo's body

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Sure, but even White (Hollow only), didn't actually possess her. He just infected her and caused her into going soul suicide or whatever. Ghostfreak from Ben 10 is a perfect example of what possession is. White (Zangetsu) having partial possession makes sense cuz he can take over only Ichigo's body

not really talking anything bout possession, just saying that white (hollow) and zangetsu are not really the same cus zangetsu is born from hollow+shinigami

 

[T2KBaka]

not really talking anything bout possession, just saying that white (hollow) and zangetsu are not really the same cus zangetsu is born from hollow+shinigami

My bad, I thought you were referring to what Applelord was talking about.

 

[AppleLord]

They're not inherently different, the Hollow that attacked Masaki is where Ichigo draws his Hollow powers from. Furthermore, White never possessed Masaki, he never took control of Masaki, he only infected her with lethal Hollow reiatsu. What happened to Masaki is not possession.

So you going to stand here and act like Quincy and Shinigami been attacked by a hollow aren’t different? Completely ignored that is their own biology and nothing to do with the hollows possession abilities?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

So you going to stand here and act like Quincy and Shinigami been attacked by a hollow aren’t different? Completely ignored that is their own biology and nothing to do with the hollows possession abilities?

go make the CRT for it if you think it holds that much backing. I’m not going to repetitively state the same thing over and over again.

 

[AppleLord]

go make the CRT for it if you think it holds that much backing. I’m not going to repetitively state the same thing over and over again.

Perphaps you don’t know Bleach as well as you thought. Man here forgot Quincy get poisoned by hollow reiatsu because they lack antibodies and treating Hollowfication as the same virus instead of what it really is, possession. Is not White fault he couldn’t possessed Masaki that’s on her biology been built different from those White could possess as any other Hollow would.

 

[PrettyVixenGirl]

Oh damn

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Anyone got the databook statement that says Yama was the fastest among the captains in FKT arc?

Does he . Well he should be

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Perphaps you don’t know Bleach as well as you thought. Man here forgot Quincy get poisoned by hollow reiatsu because they lack antibodies and treating Hollowfication as the same virus instead of what it really is, possession. Is not White fault he couldn’t possessed Masaki that’s on her biology been built different from those White could possess as any other Hollow would.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

AppleLord caught Arc Red Handed

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

If it’s as concrete as he says it is, he can get it accepted as a CRT, let his merits speak for himself

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

If it’s as concrete as he says it is, he can get it accepted as a CRT, let his merits speak for himself

Btw Ceros stated to destroy anything without a fragments of target left. So is it qualifies for any ability?

 

[Rebirth]

Btw Ceros stated to destroy anything without a fragments of target left. So is it qualifies for any ability?

It would just mean that ceros can vaporise/atomise any object given that the difference in the AP of the cero and the durability of the target object is massive. This isn't anything special and is a basic property of spirit energy in general

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

It would just mean that ceros can vaporise/atomise any object given that the difference in the AP of the cero and the durability of the target object is massive. This isn't anything special and is a basic property of spirit energy in general

I was hoping for it to Qualify to something .

 

[PrettyVixenGirl]

What does fkt even mean

 

[YukaSama4]

What does fkt even mean

fake karakura town

 

[M11UTD]

Does he . Well he should be

A lot of people think Soifon was the fastest back then.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

A lot of people think Soifon was the fastest back then.

I would say Byakuya > Soi fan. Shunsui > Byakuya. Yama > Shunsui.

 

[YukaSama4]

My memory regarding the first arc is bad, but I think Soifon has a scaling above Byakuya via fighting Yoruichi

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

My memory regarding the first arc is bad, but I think Soifon has a scaling above Byakuya via fighting Yoruichi

Hm. But if you consider Arrancar Arc Byakuya should scale above Soifon. Beside i know no one brought up Lille light in wiki speed scaling but Shunsui has better feats.

 

[PrettyVixenGirl]

Soi fon should be the fastest or Yamamoto being comparable.

I have it like soi fon, aizen, yoruichi, Yamamoto all being in same tier of speed as for who is actually the fastest in that depends on versions used ofc

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

If you buy Aaroniero’s statement of being the fastest Espada, then Byakuya (and Kenny) are likely the fastest excluding Yama.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Soi fon should be the fastest or Yamamoto being comparable.

I have it like soi fon, aizen, yoruichi, Yamamoto all being in same tier of speed as for who is actually the fastest in that depends on versions used ofc

yoruichi built different. But i am even surprised Kisuke was able to keep up with her.

yoruichi > Byakuya and Soi fan.

 

[PrettyVixenGirl]

I would say soi fon is aside from yoruichi since the one guy she fought was the one guy speed didn't work on conveniently. Soi fon was always faster than byakuya but slightly inferior to yoruichi. She also has that 20 clone stuff. But slightly inferior is also hard to say as when they fought yoruichi didn't seem faster at all just higher ap

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I would say soi fon is aside from yoruichi since the one guy she fought was the one guy speed didn't work on conveniently. Soi fon was always faster than byakuya but slightly inferior to yoruichi. She also has that 20 clone stuff

Cloning is not about Speed. Byakuya fought Zamari who can clone better and has better statement for being faster Sonido user.

But i would give it to stark for Better Sonido user. Technically Shunsui was shown to have better speed feats in every arcs.

 

[PrettyVixenGirl]

Stark and zommari are most likely close ish. Yea its not an indicator of superior speed but it is a good additional feat. Zommari claims about being fastest and brags about making clones with his speed but then soi fon does them casually and much more. And since they put her against barragan who auto reacts to her due to the time stuff I think the idea kubo was going for was having someone seemingly be fastesr than her but reality is they just countered her via hax. I don't even think byakuya believes he is faster than soi fon but I'm sure he thinks he can keep up with her. But you gotta look at what narrative sounds better


Being put against the fastest Espada or being put against a guy speed alone wouldn't work on when the captain is question is known for being mostly about speed

 

[AppleLord]

If it’s as concrete as he says it is, he can get it accepted as a CRT, let his merits speak for himself

Bleach seems to matter to you as much as CRT matters to me. I thought you be up for it.
Me? I'm just lazy.

 

[AppleLord]

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Q281.
2022.01.24
聖文字は頭文字を与え、本人の性質によって
能力が発現するのでしょうか? それとも単語
レベルで与える前から陛下は分かっているの
でしょうか?
A281.
ユーハバッハには単語が本人の体に刻印され
た様な形で見えています。
戦死などで欠けた聖文字を与えられる者をそ
の刻印された単語から見つけて力を与えま
| す。

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Q281.
2022.01.24
Does the holy letter give an initial letter, and depending on the nature of the person
Does it give you an ability? Or is it a word
or is it a word and you know it before you give it?
A281.
A281.
Juhabach can see the words as if they were imprinted on his body.
Juhabach can see the words as if they were engraved on his body.
He can find the person who is to receive the missing letters by looking at the engraved words.
A281. Juhabach sees the words as if they were engraved on his body.
| The words are as if engraved on his body.