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Never seen it in CFYOW
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Damn so I was right that Uryu would go on the list. Guess I retroactively alter the canon to fit my statements 
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That statement is within the context of The Anti-Thesis surpassing The Almighty, not Uryu's power-level surpassing Jugram's.
actually read the statement thoroughly guys.
actually read the statement thoroughly guys.
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Where is that from? And Ishida can’t be seen by almighty? What’s the context
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apparently, cant fear your own world
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Yhwach and Jugram deadass stated that in the manga -_- I’ve literally been saying this forever now. Y’all mrks this ain’t new info
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not sure tbh
EldemadeDityjon
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Hey if I want to add a new verse to wiki what are the procedures need to follow.
Loyd
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Thats a cap I only recall yhwach implying his power is greater then almighty, its never blatantly said uryu is unseen by almighty theres even a few instances where almighty haschwalth can see uryu future. Did Bleach fans really miss precog resistance for uryu
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Tousen needs an overhaul. The scaling of this character (my favorite) makes no sense. The first time he fights he defeats Uryu who has no powers. Then he is able to cut Kenpachi (who isn't even defending himself) and is defeated by Kenpachi in the soul society who still has his eye patch on. Same Kenpachi who lost to Ichigo (his words) and Tousen was using his Bankai. The same Kenpachi who fought Komamura's Bankai off-camera and Komamura went running to where Yamamoto, Shunsui and Ukitake were according to Kenpachi. Then Kenpachi is on par with Noitra and Yammy. While Tousen which cut Shinji, and Grimmjow is practically inconsistent against Komamura's Bankai while he needs Hollowfication and Ressurection to be able to go against Komamura's Bankai. Scaling is all over the place, when V agreed that Shinigami won’t get much stronger in a few months compared to the years they have trained.
Yammy > SS Arc - Shikai Ichigo = No eye patch Kenpachi = Noitra > Eye patch Kenpachi > Komamura’s Bankai = Tousen Hollowfication/Ressurection > Tousen Bankai > Tousen > Shinji > Grimmjow
Tousen shouldn’t scale above all the Espadas at all. I have a hard time believing Tousen is above Ulquiorra.
Yammy > SS Arc - Shikai Ichigo = No eye patch Kenpachi = Noitra > Eye patch Kenpachi > Komamura’s Bankai = Tousen Hollowfication/Ressurection > Tousen Bankai > Tousen > Shinji > Grimmjow
Tousen shouldn’t scale above all the Espadas at all. I have a hard time believing Tousen is above Ulquiorra.
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Unless you mean Soul Society Ichigo is stronger than Yammy when he went Bankai - I don’t know what you mean by this.
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Zaraki who fought Nnoitora was stronger than the one who fought Ichigo, that's what I meant.
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ThanksStandard Format for Verse Pages
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Yomi_Schwarz
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Have we ever seen how pernida moves???
When he sprouts out as an entire hand...how does he get around??? O___O
I....can't remember so im askin....
When he sprouts out as an entire hand...how does he get around??? O___O
I....can't remember so im askin....
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We all know that. That’s why it’s specify to be Soul Society Arc in my post. Do you need any other question answered about my post?
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This falls apart considering you scale SS Kenpachi above AA Kenpachi. Can’t do that, nothing connects the two. You also can’t say SS Sajin = FKT Sajin, again there’s been a month passing. Mrk
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SS Arc Kenpachi was not using full power. Arrancar Arc was using Full power.
Is there any evidence these characters trained in 6 months? What training in six months put them above other characters which they couldn’t get in years of training?
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SS wasn’t using his absolute full power but he wasn’t nearly as strong as HM considering SS was so close to dying that his own Zan Spirit thought he was dead. Kenny’s Zenkai would have been huge.
……. they were ordered to train and get stronger by Yama?Is there any evidence these characters trained in 6 months? What training in six months put them above other characters which they couldn’t get in years of training?
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At best we don’t know and therefore cannot assert any correlation between SS Kenpachi and AA Kenpachi. Especially when many months pass (I don’t think it was 6 but point stands). We know the Gotei 13 was preparing for war, so there ya go. Just like you can’t assume the me multiple months ago is the same as the me now, until you’re given due reason to do so, you can’t assume Kenpachi/Komamura/whoever stayed at the same level of power.
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I could be wrong, but didn’t Kenpachi straight up say he’d been slacking and not training and that’s why he was having a tough time against Nnoitora?
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SAFWY states that Zaraki didn't train, and Azashiro was surprised that he lost to SS arc Ichigo then he was strong enough to beat Nnoitora, and he and Aizen explained that by what we knew later in early TYBW from Unohana when she was training Kenpachi in Muken, that you know, he releases more Reiatsu depends on how strong is his opponent + the more he fights the more he gets stronger.
So yes he probably didn't train but he is stronger than SS arc.
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Doesn’t change much. Komamura’s Bankai couldn’t against a Base Eyepatch Kenpachi but next time we see him he goes against Ressurection Tousen who is supposed to be above Ulquiorra?
Scan?
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Months of training >>> years of training don’t add up. Inconsistent.
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Skills could mean the same thing Hitsugaya did during the end of the first invasion in TYBW. It doesn’t mean a power-up and Yamamoto is ordering the ones in the TWoTL.
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You’re inconsistent.
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Arc are you still arguing the 1000x for Transcends in the Tier 5 Thread?.
Because if you still are i have some other feats that that corroborates the 1000x being a low-ball.
Because if you still are i have some other feats that that corroborates the 1000x being a low-ball.
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bring it up in the thread
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What cyber said but wait until we are done discussing chapter 4 of the OP so we can stay streamlined and on topic.
Yomi_Schwarz
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Does anybody here have the scan where mayuri talks above aizen's immortality? :thonk:
EldemadeDityjon
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BTW the dimension of valley of scream that got nuked had a star doesn't that scale somewhere. As Senna could manipulate that many souls to push two world. Where SK can manipulate souls even better than that. Ichigo killed of weakened SK. Atleast Star level.
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Not a rebuttal.
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I recommend you read the blog Cyber made for the feat. The reason it's worded as such is because Hikone isn't literally stopping time.
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