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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Izanagi requires you to sacrifice an eye. Clones don't have real eyes.
If Izanagi could be used via clones, Danzo would just create a shadow clone that had a full set of eyes instead of wasting all the Sharingan he's collected.
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ehhh given clones can even be used for death reaper seal, and that they can use susanoo, they prob can do it. its just never done in canon
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Doubt that they can tbh. You don’t even need the eyes to use Susanoo (which is why I’m waiting for Kakashi to whip that shit out at some point).
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death reaper seal example i think works, as that means they have "souls"
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That's still only done through the original user. We haven't seen someone do the Death Reaper seal with clones without sacrificing their own life.
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hiruzen wouldnt have died though if he didnt go for orochimaru. the clones paid the spiritual toll for hiruzen and tobirama, not him. that was the point of using clones
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If they can punch you, kick you, fool you, kill you, and use eye powers, that’s real.
There’s no evidence Danzo knows how to use shadow clones which are a rare technique on a scroll that Naruto robbed from the Hogake’s office. Clones and shadow clones and wood clones are not the same.
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Shadow Clones are not rare. It was the Thousand Shadow Clone jutsu that Naruto stole which is specifically dangerous and kept locked away.
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Hiruzen was able to seal multiple souls at once using the Shadow Clones - that was the point of using clones - I don't remember it being stated anywhere that the clones took all the burden of the technique for him.
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I don't think soIt seems that the final clash between byakuya and Ichigo displaced clouds by quite a bit. Has this feat ever been calculated on this site and if so, what was the yield:
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That was never stated, that the clones took the burden of that
Not is it ever stated, implied or even imagined that clones can use izanagi or izanami with no repercussions for the real body
Saying that they can is headcanon as that is never stated nor implied
Unless u want to say that some of the smartest uchiha members on the series like madara, itachi etc. Never thought "hey, let me use a shadow clone so I don't suffer the consequences of using izanagi/izanami"
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hmmm ok, I'll see if I can get one of the calc gods in this site to do it for my dumbass lmao
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PM on discord with the scans I can do it
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sure thing and thanks.
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This probably came up before, but why is there no particular note for Orihime's "healing" considering that the way it works is not through actual healing. Like the kind of thing we do for nasuverse dead apostles.
I'm pretty sure you can't get healing/regen negation from preventing her Rejection. Just like standard heal/regen negation would not prevent her ability.
(edit) Also, upon leafing through the profiles, why doesn't Tsukishima also have causality manip, or straight up time manip?
I'm pretty sure you can't get healing/regen negation from preventing her Rejection. Just like standard heal/regen negation would not prevent her ability.
(edit) Also, upon leafing through the profiles, why doesn't Tsukishima also have causality manip, or straight up time manip?
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He honestly should considering how he made ryuujin jaka's flames dissipate in the present by making it to where they were extinguished a couple seconds prior IIRC
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you don't even need that. Remember when he was creating traps in the ground? or the full grown Tree?
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False equivalence.Yhwach negates regeneration via future manipulation. Tso just negates regen via yin-yang release.Yes. Aizen was unable to use what Ichigo confused to be “instant regeneration” base on how fast the Hogyōku was able to heal Aizen on the spot after each wound. Yhwach’s Almighty negated / delayed his regeneration power. Aizen wasn’t able to healed until Yhwach was defeated and sealed away. Yhwach did absorbed / killed Aizen in the final battle as the light novels subject that Aizen regenerated from nothing days after the final battle in front of another company barracks. He was found unconscious. It seems Aizen could had healed from the TSB against Madara in the Death Battle but Madara just won the round. They are not going to wait for Aizen to come back days later by that time Madara would assume him dead and leave.
Tso doesn't even negate all ninjustu it failed to negate space-time ninjustu and saukras regen. Even in verses equalization they hogykous power would be yin-yang release which is reality warping . Tso also uses yin-yang release to negate ninjustu. So it wouldn't even affect aizen as both abilities use the same properties.
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Because the Fullbringer Profiles suck ass.
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Now that’s some bullshit.
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Regeneration is negated. All we need.
Then Aizen’s abilities wouldn’t affect Madara since only Senjutsu and Sage Chakra can harm the Six Path God transformation. Methods are discarded to make the battle fair. Sakura was never hit with a TSB, she was hit with a black receiver, Madara’s TSB where inside Obito’s dimension at that time.
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Pardon?
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I wonder why are all Uchiha clan dead? Oh, God Itachi killed them. There’s no anti-feats. Itachi our lord an savior is beyond reality warping loops. Never mind and carry on.Clones being able to spam izanagi for free no repercussions despite that never at all being the case in the series itself is fine, but Yama’s numerous and consistent EE Bankai statements is “anime hype”. DB is funny
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Never heard of it. Aka you made that up.
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I didn’t want to watch the MadarAizen Q&A cuz I knew it’d have some wack ass justifications that would just tilt me. So I blame y’all for me being tiltedI wonder why are all Uchiha clan dead? Oh, God Itachi killed them. There’s no anti-feats. Itachi our lord an savior is beyond reality warping loops. Never mind and carry on.
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@Arc7Kuroi where translation?
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is this stated in cant fear your own world?
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I've read the official translations of all three volumes and I can confirm that this statement was never made lmao
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bleach wiki prob still using the fan translations then
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All cap madara was one shot by spatial hax. Aizen can easily use black coffin and wipe him off the map.
The hogyoku has the power to create beings who can control and create physical/natural matter like the soul king so would technically have senjustu or the hogyoku would grant him the power.
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Where is the shadow clone been different from the multi shadow clone jutsu info? Still some BS. There’s no difference besides numbers. But thanks for the image that proof further my point that Danzo still doesn’t have feats.Oh really? Care to insist on that?
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EldemadeDityjon
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Bro you are also using NLF for Madara
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It’s applelord. What do you expect?Bro you are also using NLF for Madara
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That's not a NLF literally made aizen into being to replace the soul king. It's even stated in the novels the hogyoku can create beings like the soul king.
How is sussanoo negging spatial hax when madara himself couldn't?
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Real Shit?
Man, someone REALLY needs to do a hogyoku respect thread. (doesn't have to be long)
