BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Arc7Kuroi]

Im expecting 4-A Naruto and Ichigo. Especially when Clyde thinks Full Hollow is multi-planetary and Seth thinks half of Kurama is planetary.

 

[Blallooo]

Assuming that true shikai Ichigo is at least as fast as base Kenpachi and Hikone, wouldn't a good way, in debates, to have Ichigo at MFTL
the horn of salvation and bankai X10 multiplier ?
10x because Yoruichi said that depending on the talent it can be 5-10x increase and if Ichigo isn't extraordinary talented I honestly don't know who is ?

 

[Blallooo]

Im expecting 4-A Naruto and Ichigo. Especially when Clyde thinks Full Hollow is multi-planetary and Seth thinks half of Kurama is planetary.

How is it possible to not approve Ichigo at universal with good evidence but approving half of kurama at planetary ?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

\(0-0)/

I’ve never understand thinking Kurama is 5-B off of faulty translations. But Bleach fans can’t read so who knows.

 

[Soulgizmo]

 

[Naeblis495]

KURAMAMAMMAMAMAMMAM!!!!!!!!

Mugetsu completely desintegrate the target ,even the hogyoku struggled to fix that. Kurama's regen doesn't even come close to fixing that.

 

[GroundX1]

I will only realize that I won in life when pre-timeskip ichigo beats Naruto at the peak

 

[Naeblis495]

Im expecting 4-A Naruto and Ichigo. Especially when Clyde thinks Full Hollow is multi-planetary and Seth thinks half of Kurama is planetary.

i've lost faith for an accurate fight the moment Seth said in his Yhwach video that ichigo doesn't scale to Yhwach. Despite having clear feat on panel than even an half dead bankai ichigo one shotted him .

 

[Naeblis495]

I will only realize that I won in life when pre-timeskip ichigo beats Naruto at the peak

Already does thanks to soul hax. no matter how strong naruto is , soul hax **** him up.

 

[GroundX1]

The thing is to do the ichigo pre-timeskip speed blitz

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

i've lost faith for an accurate fight the moment Seth said in his Yhwach video that ichigo doesn't scale to Yhwach. Despite having clear feat on panel than even an half dead bankai ichigo one shotted him .

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[Khaostichny]

What I most want is see Top Tier at Level Planetary. I will only be happy when the Top Tier of Bleach is trampling on the God Tier of Naruto in AP.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Low 6-B MHS SK Yhwach says hi

 

[Khaostichny]

Low 6-B MHS SK Yhwach says hi

 

[Soulgizmo]

I always thought ichigo would beat naruto because if you just look at them at face value. Ichigo has been fighting immortal death gods for a long time vs naruto who only up until recently just fought aliens.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Naruto’s on screen feats look bigger

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Y’all remember way back in the day before War Arc Naruto happened and the general consensus was that Bleach stomped Naruto besides like …….. Gyuki and Kurama stuff. That shit flipped on it’s head once KCM2 happened.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Naruto’s on screen feats look bigger

Shounen Fans: Big Boom?

Author: (Nods) Big Badda Boom!

Shounen Fans: Whoa

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Y’all remember way back in the day before War Arc Naruto happened and the general consensus was that Bleach stomped Naruto besides like …….. Gyuki and Kurama stuff. That shit flipped on it’s head once KCM2 happened.

I wasn’t even powerscaling during that age.

But tbf in terms of Bleach’s visually impressive feats (CO, GRC, and Gremmy’s meteor) they’re highkey fodder in terms of visuals if you pixel scale them. Pixel scaling the meteor is like 6-C to 6-A+ at best. But when you use Yoruichi’s statement/the movie statement for size and use methods that don’t require pixel scaling it’s like easily High 6-A. Then CO at its worst with pixel scaling is like 7-A.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

I wasn’t even powerscaling during that age.

That’s fair lol.

But tbf in terms of Bleach’s visually impressive feats (CO, GRC, and Gremmy’s meteor) they’re highkey fodder in terms of visuals if you pixel scale them. Pixel scaling the meteor is like 6-C to 6-A+ at best. But when you use Yoruichi’s statement/the movie statement for size and use methods that don’t require pixel scaling it’s like easily High 6-A. Then CO at its worst with pixel scaling is like 7-A.

I remember I used to buy into the city sized LN and Seireitei stuff and Ulq being ooga booga strong. As in I thought him and Zangetsu could floor Monster Aizen Blood War wasn’t even out at the time.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

That’s fair lol.

Bruh I'm so stupid I thought you were replying to yourself.

 

[Soulgizmo]

Naruto’s on screen feats look bigger

Id really like naruto to go full dbz and blow up a planet already

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Bruh I'm so stupid I thought you were replying to yourself.

Lmao. Me and Arc ain’t the same guy or are we?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Dear lord.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Speaking of thinking people are someone else, I thought you were Gin for a sec.

May he rest in peace.

 

[Tyri456]

Dear lord.

Oh that Aizen picture.

 

[AppleLord]

I think Pain can blitz and kill Yhwach. Bleach consistency feat’s are building level and city level at max. Zero wank here please.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I think Pain can blitz and kill Yhwach. Bleach consistency feat’s are building level and city level at max. Zero wank here please.

True but I raise you this, Naruto and Sasuke going all out is tier 9 < building level, soooooo.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

True but I raise you this, Naruto and Sasuke going all out is tier 9 < building level, soooooo.

Tier 9? Isn't that a little bit offensive?

Especially when they're just 2-D characters? Tier 11 is it's at

 

[Thehunter077]

Why Harribel doesn't have 6-A key?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Why Harribel doesn't have 6-A key?

Yes.

 

[Thehunter077]

Yes.

I thought it was IMADE who answer this or LorsGinSama

 

[Blallooo]

Is Gremmy's galaxy room coloured scan with the starry sky official and legit ?

 

[AppleLord]

Is Gremmy's galaxy room coloured scan with the starry sky official and legit ?

 

[YukaSama4]

Is Gremmy's galaxy room coloured scan with the starry sky official and legit ?

idk about the coloured stuff but yeah there are stars and galaxies in his space and its official in the manga and stated in CFYOW that its he created an outer space but probably its treated as an outlier

 

[Ssr4vegito]

Wouldn't that feat be more consistent with the Universal God tier scaling ? It's also weird that there's this massive gap between God tiers and others like Kenpachi(cfyow) and Hikone

The novels also stated Gremmy was the 2nd strongest quincy(atleast before the asuwahlen buff for the RG) behind Yhwach

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Wouldn't that feat be more consistent with the Universal God tier scaling ? It's also weird that there's this massive gap between God tiers and others like Kenpachi(cfyow) and Hikone

The novels also stated Gremmy was the 2nd strongest quincy(atleast before the asuwahlen buff for the RG) behind Yhwach

Either way you slice the pie there's gonna be a massive leap between characters. If you accept Gremmy tier 3 scaling then you have all the pre-Gremmy characters jumping from High 6-A to tier 3. If you only accept the God Tiers scaling to tier 3 you have them jumping from High 6-A to tier 3.

But regarding the massive gap, they're called God Tiers for a reason, they're above the verse.

 

[YukaSama4]

tbh I don't mind Gremmy being that powerful, my problem is that people will try to scale Zaraki and others to him which I don't agree with lol

 

[Tyri456]

I think no one here even agree to scale gremmy to that, I was supporting it solely as external rating, which would not change the scaling and actually create consistency for god tier tiering.

 

[YukaSama4]

Also if anyone is interested in the "Yama was going to destroy the whole dimension" this feat from Gremmy will support it because what Yhwach said about no one other than him can control Yama’s Bankai, and CFYOW stating Yhwach in the past could defeat Gremmy and seal him.

which would not change the scaling and actually create consistency for god tier tiering.

Yeah