BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Arc7Kuroi]

Flashback to Gremmy no-selling a strike from Kenpachi by making his skin as hard as steel.

“big iron, big iron…”

 

[AppleLord]

That Ghoul made 20% Royal Guard Training Renji bleed. They were looking for Hollows to capture so it can't be blamed on off-guard. Unless Renji was chilling and not using passive reiatsu. I doubt the building made him bleed.

 

[Ovy7]

Technically, that Ghoul would be around Mask's lvl, which is pretty dope xD

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

As a ginger I will have to coccslap you for that statement.

you cant slap with anything that isnt canon.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

“Possibly High 6-Bish” ghouls be like

 

[Reio35]

If someone can make calc for the soykou then i can scale ichigo to it. Low ball scale would be country level do it being able to destroy seiririte and highball is planet due to destroying soul society

 

[Ovy7]

Well, the Ghoul damaged a 20% base Renji while Mask did jack shit with his 10x punch to a casual Shikai Renji, so it kinda evens out.

This, of course, without taking in consideration Renji growing more powerful since his fight with Mask.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

That Ghoul made 20% Royal Guard Training Renji bleed. They were looking for Hollows to capture so it can't be blamed on off-guard. Unless Renji was chilling and not using passive reiatsu. I doubt the building made him bleed.

na he bleed cus he hit the building

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

na he bleed cus he hit the building

High 6-B buildings be like

 

[Ovy7]

Explains why FKT wasn't destroyed by 3 Espada releasing inside it. . . xD

 

[Reio35]

Well, the Ghoul damaged a 20% base Renji while Mask did jack shit with his 10x punch to a casual Shikai Renji, so it kinda evens out.

This, of course, without taking in consideration Renji growing more powerful since his fight with Mask.

I don't think that should count renji was off guard. When know that shimigami have their reiastu lowered off guard

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I don't think that should count renji was off gurad. When know that shimigami have their reiastu lowered off gurad

We’re memeing, obviously Renji was off guard and nerfed via Gentei Reiin.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Whenever super strong characters hit someone to no effect and say "Wow, they're as tough as iron", I always translate that in my brain to mean "They're not actually comparing them literally to iron itself, but just acknowledging that from their perspective that them hitting the opponent is comparable an ordinary person trying to punch iron."

Only way to make sense of some stupid writing in some series.

Nah nah, everything pre Gremmy fight Kenny is steel level. This is consistent with how Hierro gives them problems and that's only as tough as iron.

 

[Damage3245]

Nah nah, everything pre Gremmy fight Kenny is steel level. This is consistent with how Hierro gives them problems and that's only as tough as iron.

Can't refute that.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

I plan on doing a multiplier “restructuring” thread which will be more your alley don’t worry kekw

Hmmmmm intensifies

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I can't wait to watch as I turn into the Anakin of Bleach when I call bullshit on 5-10x combat amp = 5-10x all stats for Ichigo.

 

[YukaSama4]

I'm here to say that FB Ichigo, Retsu, Hascwalth, and Ishida have the most cancer scaling in terms of "its hard as **** to decide how strong they are"

You can make many scaling chains for them and all of them can be different but can still be true, that's why I don't like their discussions lmao

 

[Cyberblader90]

I can't wait to watch as I turn into the Anakin of Bleach when I call bullshit on 5-10x combat amp = 5-10x all stats for Ichigo.

I must strike you down.

 

[Zoro21043]

I've been wanting to do a character analysis/dissection of Aizen. I've heard a lot of people say he is an I quote "most one-dimensional character in the manga" which is Lol

you reminded me of the longest analysis ive read which was on him, shit took me like an hour to finish reading https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1StGW_4BsBxLAWeWy_jbgAQ2aOz33dpWz

 

[Zoro21043]

Soul Society Shikai Ichigo revision inbound featuring Cyber get hyped!

using the sokyoku stuff?

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

I generally dislike anime analysis on youtube. they tend to be pretty terrible, either ******** on a series with terrible arguments or praising a series or character like an English teacher. "ahh see this random thing here is so deep and thematic" while we forget those Themes are built on some shoddy writing.
though there are a few channels I like.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

the third one is the cookie-cutter fluff videos that just recap things you know already or just read a wiki page.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I personally enjoy "over analyzing" a series, I like the idea that the author leaves deep thematics and messages for us to delve into if we so choose, it increases the re-readability for me. Like I can find something new each time.

 

[AppleLord]

Is Ichigo using a partial release to limit himself in the WOTL? But how does that explain the fuckery he did against Yhwach?

 

[Damage3245]

I can't wait to watch as I turn into the Anakin of Bleach when I call bullshit on 5-10x combat amp = 5-10x all stats for Ichigo.

That's something I've felt for the longest time tbh.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

I can't wait to watch as I turn into the Anakin of Bleach when I call bullshit on 5-10x combat amp = 5-10x all stats for Ichigo.

In that same thread, you can also make Hollowfication, Bankai and Vollstandig a x10 multiplier cuz GRC exists.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

I can't wait to watch as I turn into the Anakin of Bleach when I call bullshit on 5-10x combat amp = 5-10x all stats for Ichigo.

Also this

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

That's something I've felt for the longest time tbh.

I personally prefer to use the databook stated multipliers, which directly tell us what stat is being amped, over the "5x combat ability" hurr durr stuff.

 

[Cyberblader90]

arc be turning to the dark side.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

I personally enjoy "over analyzing" a series, I like the idea that the author leaves deep thematics and messages for us to delve into if we so choose, it increases the re-readability for me. Like I can find something new each time.

I think it's fine to over-analyze something but I dont like it when people Justify Themes as a way to be condescending to someone who doesn't share them or to Justify issues in the writing.

for example, I adore the Itachi and Sasuke Reunion during the Ninja war and the Ultimate theme is really nice but i still wouldn't call it well written because while the theme is nice everything around it is built on plot contrivances and deus ex machinas that hurt the worldbuilding.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

That's something I've felt for the longest time tbh.

If I could I would remove Multipliers for every series lol

 

[Cyberblader90]

If I could I would remove Multipliers for every series lol

 

[AnonymousBlank]

If I could I would remove Multipliers for every series lol

...... right, you go do that with DB and I will join the crusade tbh.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

...... right, you go do that with DB and I will join the crusade tbh.

Dragonball,Naruto,Black Clover everything lmao

 

[Zoro21043]

I personally enjoy "over analyzing" a series, I like the idea that the author leaves deep thematics and messages for us to delve into if we so choose, it increases the re-readability for me. Like I can find something new each time.

same, i see some say"you are looking to deep and its a reach" but if there is no deeper meaning intended by the author but the way you came to the conclusion makes sense and not contradicted and is consistent its valid imo as there is almost no way for us to know if the author intended something or not (specially the mf kubo who likes to be subtle) since most of us dont get the chance to meet them.

the third one is the cookie-cutter fluff videos that just recap things you know already or just read a wiki page.

hate these, many bleach videos fall into this category sadly like dbzimrans videos or mr tommo at least when i used to watch them

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Dragonball,Naruto,Black Clover everything lmao

Oh I realise. I'm just saying if you pull it off against Dragon Ball, you are some kind of Messiah for powerscaling.

 

[KingAllen30]

Dragonball,Naruto,Black Clover everything lmao

Didn’t Naruto SM multiplier already being removed lol

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Didn’t Naruto SM multiplier already being removed lol

yes lol

 

[YukaSama4]

arc be turning to the dark side.

Arc is the next villain

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Oh I realise. I'm just saying if you pull it off against Dragon Ball, you are some kind of Messiah for powerscaling.

I wish lmao, i would be fighting a losing battle.