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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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It wasn't a single person, I made a recent thread about this and several people (people from this general thread) said we dont consider Reiatsu to equal AP/Durability.
They even linked back to the thread IMade made about this saying thats the currently accepted rule.
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Also, I think notifs dont update if you are already on the page.
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Not that I'm advocating for it, but seeing how Hikone can't actually stop time, the "as if" could just mean that, Hikone moves so fast time might as well be stopped but it isn't actually stopped.
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Considering he is a transcendental being, it makes sense he is so fast that relative to others, he moves instantly.
especially if he’s around butterflyzen levels of strength, if not higher.
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IIRC that's only CFYOW Kenpachi, not TYBW Kenpachi
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Wasn’t TYBW’s reiatsu unfelt by the Squad 11 members??
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He defeated Hikone without Shikai.
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Nope. Not even gonna try that shit. I'm sick of BBS's mercenary tactics. Jesus **** it's complete hassle to get that many orbs like holy shit.
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The mimihagi and aushwalen will be gone
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Don’t know. Probably wouldn’t mean shit.
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Sigurd brought up good points for using sound as travel speed, and Apple (I think it was Apple) brought up good points for using lightning as travel speed.
Personally, lightning seems more than fair considering how extremely casual Ichigo was with the femritters. (14652000 km)
Honestly considering how Ichigo earlier in the series ran on an treadmill for like a week and later fought Tensa Zangetsu/White for 3 months, it's pretty fair to assume Ichigo would be going at top speeds for just a mere 9 hours. Albeit that's calc stacking I'm pretty sure. (~11AU for any curious using Ichigo's current speed rating)
Personally, lightning seems more than fair considering how extremely casual Ichigo was with the femritters. (14652000 km)
Honestly considering how Ichigo earlier in the series ran on an treadmill for like a week and later fought Tensa Zangetsu/White for 3 months, it's pretty fair to assume Ichigo would be going at top speeds for just a mere 9 hours. Albeit that's calc stacking I'm pretty sure. (~11AU for any curious using Ichigo's current speed rating)
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I asked USklaveri and he said he will talk with calc members
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I can see the future, so bookmark this reply.
"Using a characters speed to get a distance to use for other characters speed feats will be label as calc stacking."
We can never use the distance for a calc ever again.
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Came back and found the thread closed...
Can someone remind me exactly how relevant this calc is to the character stats? Because iirc:
Mimihagi would scale above Renji anyway.
Auswählen and the death beam would just scale to Ywhach's attack speed, since they are his attacks. Lilotto would very minimally scale to this, (and since she was already Rel with an extremely lowballed calc, this shouldn't be a issue)
Can someone remind me exactly how relevant this calc is to the character stats? Because iirc:
Mimihagi would scale above Renji anyway.
Auswählen and the death beam would just scale to Ywhach's attack speed, since they are his attacks. Lilotto would very minimally scale to this, (and since she was already Rel with an extremely lowballed calc, this shouldn't be a issue)
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They are supporting feats, anyway looking back at some of the profiles
I say some of their reasoning are terrible:
>>Mimihagi previous speed:
Speed: FTL (Easily traveled to the Soul King Palace in mere moments. One of the fastest beings seen in the series so far)
His reasoning are linked to Rel calc while claiming its FTL?
>>Yamamoto: Continent level+ with Bankai (Would have destroyed Soul Society, stated by Yhwach that he is the only person that can control the power of Yamamoto's Bankai). Again his reasoning are linked to Continent level calc while claiming its Continent level+.
I understand it's scaling from Gremmy but no where it mentions that on his page. Now lets look at Yhwach Page:
>>Yhwach: Attack Potency: Continent level+ (Far superior to Gremmy Thoumeaux)
Fair enough, his Continent level+ is from him superior to Gremmy, lets see Gremmy profiles
>>Gremmy: Attack Potency: Large Country level (Is stated to be the strongest Sternritter and is only below Yhwach)
???
I will probably find more of this if I look a little deeper, normally this won't be much of an issue for me because this only require simple fix..
Except when all profiles are locked..
I say some of their reasoning are terrible:
>>Mimihagi previous speed:
Speed: FTL (Easily traveled to the Soul King Palace in mere moments. One of the fastest beings seen in the series so far)
His reasoning are linked to Rel calc while claiming its FTL?
>>Yamamoto: Continent level+ with Bankai (Would have destroyed Soul Society, stated by Yhwach that he is the only person that can control the power of Yamamoto's Bankai). Again his reasoning are linked to Continent level calc while claiming its Continent level+.
I understand it's scaling from Gremmy but no where it mentions that on his page. Now lets look at Yhwach Page:
>>Yhwach: Attack Potency: Continent level+ (Far superior to Gremmy Thoumeaux)
Fair enough, his Continent level+ is from him superior to Gremmy, lets see Gremmy profiles
>>Gremmy: Attack Potency: Large Country level (Is stated to be the strongest Sternritter and is only below Yhwach)
???
I will probably find more of this if I look a little deeper, normally this won't be much of an issue for me because this only require simple fix..
Except when all profiles are locked..
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I feel like I remember there being a thread about fixing Bleach's scaling chain, but I could be mistaken.
What I was getting at though, is that the SKP distance has been reduced to a supporting role once Renji got his FTL calc
What I was getting at though, is that the SKP distance has been reduced to a supporting role once Renji got his FTL calc
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Wasn't Yhwach like...Kinda Upscaling thanks to how lazy he is with sleeping and collecting souls? (Or something, pretty sure it involved absorbing the power of the dead Quincy every time he slept or something, so he gets stronger by literally doing nothing)
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Yes...Essentially yes. Because Yhwach is the only one who can lock him up
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I'm talking with some staff members about the feat and I'm open to re-calcing it using the speed of sound as Ichigo's travel speed value. I can't promise this is what we'll definitely use but we can at least discuss it and evaluate it.
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I don't think that would be applicable, for the reasons laid out on the Calc Stacking page under "Hiding calculations"
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SOS sounds bad and inaccurate to use given that ichigo has shown and is known to be faster than lightning already and by that point too more than anything imo
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