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put it open for everyone
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Mostly comes down to the fact that people will scale to Yhwach, that's why the thread will have so many issues.
Really it's no different from SK's feat, but it's the implications of accepting it that so many people don't like.
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Ichigo cut him in half multiple times, clashed with him a dozen times, blocked several attacks from him etc... It's literally impossible to say he doesn't scale.
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not to mention Yhwach being scarred shitless of his bankai , so much so that he doesn't even want ichigo to swing his blade in his general direction .
Arcker123
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Yeesh, I respect the effort.
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That's a pretty big exaggeration.
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about the 15 pages version. We'll being going with a short version. Excerpts from doc will be used if need be
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Even so, it's true regardless, Yhwach was afraid of his Bankai and thus broke it before it could be used, combine that with Ichigo damaging Yhwach and blocking his attacks several times, and to say he doesn't scale is completely asinine.
Arcker123
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Is it gonna be posted today?
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It isn't ? He instantly destroy his bankai without even letting him the chance to swing and say that this is a fearsome bankai .
Yhwach know what ichigo is capable of at his best and he want none of that problem . He don't even want to let ichigo swing the damn thing .
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ive been told such a long version would most likely not be fully read
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that is true
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Yeah I have no doubt that when Yhwach turned on the Almighty he started looking through futures where he didn’t break it and realized it was a lose-lose situation unless he did break it
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ichigo already can harm him and it only turned into a stomp when YH decided to use hax so not really an argument against ichigo
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Eyes = Almighty=Fate hax
Yhwach abbandonned the idea of fighting ichigo with physicals the pico second he wipped out his true bankai . Even Trus shikai +HoS was enough to force Yhwach to start using Fate Hax instead of brawling with him like he did before .
Even a weakened bankai ichigo one shotted Yhwach once he actually got his hands on him.
Yhwach abbandonned the idea of fighting ichigo with physicals the pico second he wipped out his true bankai . Even Trus shikai +HoS was enough to force Yhwach to start using Fate Hax instead of brawling with him like he did before .
Even a weakened bankai ichigo one shotted Yhwach once he actually got his hands on him.
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He should’ve let him use his bankai against him then if he was “playing” with him. See no reason that he’s immediately break it unless it’s a very real threat to him. Also are you ignoring the fact that Yhwach literally told Ichigo he started using the Almighty because he couldn’t afford to be careless or nah?
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He bodied him by using The Almighty, physically they were clearly comparable.
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For anyone who has not seen it
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Yhwach taking out Icing with hax isn't impressive. Ichigo has always taken L's from hax, just look at Asking just a few moments prior. If Yhwach was really > Ichigo in physicals, there should have been no reason for him to abuse hax in a fight with a character with zero hax.
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Lol I remember I had to explain to someone that Gerard isn’t literally an organ of the SK like Pernida and Mimihagi.
Look what we have here...
Look what we have here...
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or how aura has the chain
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Yeah. I forgot who it was that argued against me suggesting Gerard is a literal heart that grew a human body.
Even though I explained how it wasn’t possible.
Even though I explained how it wasn’t possible.
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Don’t wanna post this in the Yhwach thread, but after thinking about if for a little bit, this is just based off my own opinion. If the universal stuff is accepted as well as senna’s feat I think the scaling could possible go like this.
yhwach: Low 5B| 3A to low 2C
Keys: soul king absorbed| peak Yhwach
Ichigo: at least High 6A likely higher, Low 5B with hollowfication| Low 5B, 5B with hollowfication| 3A to Low 2C, higher with hollowfication
Keys: true shikai| true bankai| post true bankai restoration
Aizen: Low 5B, possibly 3A to Low 2C
yhwach: Low 5B| 3A to low 2C
Keys: soul king absorbed| peak Yhwach
Ichigo: at least High 6A likely higher, Low 5B with hollowfication| Low 5B, 5B with hollowfication| 3A to Low 2C, higher with hollowfication
Keys: true shikai| true bankai| post true bankai restoration
Aizen: Low 5B, possibly 3A to Low 2C
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i mean, im asking for a possibly for the tier 3/2 in general
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Why not reverse the previous tiers?
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the previous tiers where based on assuming the creation and destruction was done via hax, they put them at tier 2 but now that it has been proven that it was done via AP
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Then it should be Ichigo: "At Least Low 2-C, Higher with Bankai".
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they dont want to.
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Are you saying we should do a flat rating?
I refuse
I refuse
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they refuse to put it either as possibly or likely
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My current proposals I feel are the safest route and also functions as a compromise
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they do work as a compromise......if they wanted a compromise
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Let us wait for a response to my general post on the issues with the dangai method
