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Best Zangetsu comin' in
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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First design Kenpachi looks like a crack addict outside of a 7-11 at 2AM.
ReaperAndBlues
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That's just Kenpachi in general.
First design Kenpachi looks like a crack addict outside of a 7-11 at 2AM.
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"When Ichigo says he's weaker than Superman, he can't protect everyone in the world. By the end of the series, he protects everyone in 3 worlds. Ichigo = 3x Superman confirmed?"
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I have to show up in glasses and a fake mustache, Denny's doesn't like me too much.
DaMonkeMan
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Shouldn't have pipe bombs hidden in your pants next time..
ReaperAndBlues
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Venny the last time you came you lit a sword on fire and called it Ryujin Jakka, it's no surprise.
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ReaperAndBlues
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Neat foreshadowing of dual wielding. Kubo said dual Zanpakutos have longer release chants, so Ichigo's being this long makes sense
EldemadeDityjon
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Idk man I think Genius in combat is enough. Extraordinary genius for combat shouldn't even exists.
Kenpachi Zaraki Intelligence
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Anything I can add to mywankintelligence section?
ReaperAndBlues
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Blame Zoro for this. I thought Genius would be enough, but I decided that it would be a diservice, so I'm pushing for this instead
EldemadeDityjon
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ReaperAndBlues
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Take that up with Gin, he made both his sections.Who cooked that shit
Someone should confiscate their cooking licence
EldemadeDityjon
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Oh. I'll talk to him in discord later. Though I'm not interested in OP scaling or other stuff.
ReaperAndBlues
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I might discuss that with him myself, since EG Zoro is pretty f***ing ridiculous imo. There is no reason Zoro should have better combat intelligence than GOKU
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I wouldn't say he's stronger, but Byakuya's definitely more comparable to Adult Toshiro than Kid Toshiro if you include his higher-level attacks. In terms of raw power, it's certainly debatable, though, because Byakuya's definitely always seemed like a skill and speed main to me, which is one of the reasons I like him so much. So Toshiro's for sure got higher AP overall.
The fact that they both have Gerard scaling is what throws me off. Gerard scaling is really interesting, considering he's really strong and kind of absolutely slaughtered in that fight, so a lot of people weren't just using AP against him, as is typical with giant enemies. I personally think he should've gotten his ass beat by Zaraki, but I understand why that didn't happen.
EldemadeDityjon
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Genius rating with his skills explained under that should be enough IMO
ReaperAndBlues
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Yeah but EG looks better. Again, gonna debate this with Gin later. If Zoro's is revoked, Kenpachi's will, and by extension, Yamamoto and Unohana's
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The thing about Zoro is that he just creates powers out of nowhere for no reason with no explanation. He also copies techniques after seeing them once, just like Goku.
I don't care if he gets Extreme Genius or regular Genius, but the man is crazy either way.
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That's still within genius tho, like all the bs Baki mfs pull, also I'm pretty sure Goku did that too.
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Anyways, we're derailing, I'll talk to Gin later and figure out why tf he's an EG in combat probably make a downgrade thread too. However, there is another presing matter at hand for me: how smart is Jugram?
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Yeah, but the thing is, his stuff is never explained. Like, he can create the whole Asura thing without a Devil Fruit using his willpower, and no one else has been seen doing anything like that, except in the anime, and that was SHANKS using his Conquerer's Haki to create an aura thing.
Also, he can just increase the size of his muscles... just because he can.
Legitimately, I don't know that he's even human, more lore needed.
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Higher than Animalistic.
DaMonkeMan
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Idk if that'd warrant genius or eg though
ReaperAndBlues
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Baki can do that too
Oda also hints towards the fact that the Strawhats are just straight up not normal. They literally drink milk to restore broken bones. This is probably just that.
He's a strawhat
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If Baki isn't an EG after doing the same thing, even willing himself out of death, then Zoro can't scale to EG with that.
ReaperAndBlues
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Watch Raven call Jugram mindless
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Misread "Edo" as "Eos" and immediately thought Madara was stomping. However, if it's Edo Madara, this is a really good fight.
Now, I looked at Byakuya's profile, and I LOVE WHEN PEOPLE LINK THE AP VALUES IN THE NOTES SECTION, THANK YOU TO WHOEVER DID THIS.
That said, Edo Madara is a soul, and hitting him in the soul will damage him.
Overall, he can't do much, despite having a much higher speed, but I do think the Susano'o is a valid wincon. Byakuya would be in serious trouble.
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That's a power system in his world, I think Zoro just straight up invented magic.
Man, they're lowkey freaky as hell.
EldemadeDityjon
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Creating powers ≠ any intelligence?Unless it's some kind of stuff he did with his IQ.
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Looking through the Gerard fight again now that I'm not rushing through the manga out of excitement like I was 2 years ago, and Shunsui is so cold.
"A woman's pity is so very cruel. No ear to lend to a petulant man. Around his lovely throat shines... a white thread, wet with regret. If nothing else, let me cut it away. That awkwardly tangled... thread of regret. With that I present... the final act. Thread Cut: Blood-Soaked Throat."
No wonder Ichigo had been talking about chills earlier.
No wonder Ichigo had been talking about chills earlier.
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He just does it, it's not explained, he just learned how to control his muscles and turn his willpower into a construct over the course of one day because he felt like it. It's not shown to be related to anything as of yet.
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Those still don't fall under the standards of EG though.
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I don't really care about EG, I was just saying that his skill level is pretty good.
ReaperAndBlues
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Nah, he's Trunks level at best.
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Ooooh, then maybe you shouldn't check out some of the Mashle profiles
ReaperAndBlues
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Was just about to bring that up too....
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Life of King out it down for Mash, we just tried to keep it consistent. It's hard supporting a verse when you can count the supporters with only one hand.
