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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Stark powers disappointing tbh atleast barragan was more interesting
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dubs
Excellence616
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How you came to this conclusion is funny.
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Res is their full power. Just following the rankig.
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How did you confirm that?
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Apple is a massive troll and most of the time will cry wolf on misinformation, a general rule of thumb is to take everything he says with a grain of salt.
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Never forget Ichigo vs Gremmy
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I saw it on a debate in Comic vine.
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Only reason Ulquiorra feels stronger than the top 3 Espada (Yammy being 0 was a psyop it never happened) is because their fights were subpar
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Guacamolefletcher
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I'll go as far as saying:
Base Harribel puts up a fight vs SE Ulquiorra, and Res Harribel seals the deal, and beats him, because her Res. is a very very very minor stat amp.
Base Harribel puts up a fight vs SE Ulquiorra, and Res Harribel seals the deal, and beats him, because her Res. is a very very very minor stat amp.
Ok what the f*ck...
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Wasn’t harribel struggling fighting toshiro and the vizards
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Yammy and stark might be stronger but I can’t see harribel and Barragan being stronger than segunda ulquiorra
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Out of the 4 highest ranked espada, Harribel is the only one that you can even remotely argue that SE Ulquiorra might beat because of the SAFWY statement from Cien that puts Respira (and Starrk’s wolves and Yammy) above Ulquiorra’s Lanza.
You can argue that Ulquiorra’s statement about there being 3 espada stronger than him could apply to their released states, and that the espada he’s referring to are Yammy, Starrk, and Barragan, rather than Starrk, Barragan, and Harribel. That’s as generous as you can be to him.
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'Might be' is my polite way of saying that I don't agree but I won't say no outright because I'm polite like that. SE ulq being stronger than Harribel ***** up a lot of the scaling of other characters, but Ulq fans seem to ignore that.
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Barragan negative diffs Ulq by breathing. The synapsis in ulquiorra's brain won't even know what happened.
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I must confess I didn't like Barragan's fight that much
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For someone who was considered the king of hueco Mundo u would think he’s much greater than what he was portrayed to be maybe arrancars and hollows just aren’t on the lvl as soul reapers and Quincy.
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He lost to them track-starring, maybe Barragan should've picked up a ******* Cero or Sonido or something.
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Keep in mind Baraggan also was super old, wasn’t doing much of any kind of training due to boredom for prolly thousands of years. I think he’s meant to be a shell (or a skeleton 
) of his old self.
Edit: also that makes sense with highly Iko speaks of the Baraggan he knew thousands of years ago.
) of his old self.Edit: also that makes sense with highly Iko speaks of the Baraggan he knew thousands of years ago.
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Personally think it would have been cool if barragan was on the same lvl as Yamamoto or atleast close and Aizen using tricks to beat Him like he did with Yamamoto. I know this might mess up with the plot of the separate respecting him cause of his strength but overall it does feel like arrancars are the weakest race although they are one of the coolest.
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I think it makes sense that the arrancar as a whole are the weakest compares to the Shinigami/Quincy.
The Shinigami have had over a thousand years to learn,create,document and just teach evert next generations the tricks of the old one,and they are also in the most "dominant" position of the 3 by the start of Bleach.
The Quincies have been preparing for war for a thousand years.
The Arrancars are a fairly recent phenomen in hollow history(at least in terms of large numbers) and Hollows as whole are fairly self destructive outside of a few,and even fewer are the type to just spread the Knowledge of "here's the manual of how to get strong".
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Klub outside:
Q: In the Thousand Year Bloody War arc, I believe that Commander Komamura became like a human due to using the human transformation technique, but was the reason why he suddenly turned into a wolf after the battle because the time limit for this technique expired?
Or was it because Commander Komamura himself was filled and overwhelmed by the desire for revenge?If the correct reason is the latter, do you agree with me that Komamura wouldn't have turned into a wolf if he kept his good/benevolent intentions, such as "protecting Soul Society"?
K: Mostly yes."Humanization Technique" is a technique/technique that allows you to maintain your human form while bearing the curse of your grandfather/great-grandfather.The moment the object of the humanization technique becomes as selfish as Sajin's desire for revenge, his grandfather's curse is forcibly applied and he transforms from his human form into a monster.
Q: In the Thousand Year Bloody War arc, I believe that Commander Komamura became like a human due to using the human transformation technique, but was the reason why he suddenly turned into a wolf after the battle because the time limit for this technique expired?
Or was it because Commander Komamura himself was filled and overwhelmed by the desire for revenge?If the correct reason is the latter, do you agree with me that Komamura wouldn't have turned into a wolf if he kept his good/benevolent intentions, such as "protecting Soul Society"?
K: Mostly yes."Humanization Technique" is a technique/technique that allows you to maintain your human form while bearing the curse of your grandfather/great-grandfather.The moment the object of the humanization technique becomes as selfish as Sajin's desire for revenge, his grandfather's curse is forcibly applied and he transforms from his human form into a monster.
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One thing I've noticed a lot is that outside of this forum, bleach suffers a lot of hate, bias and downplay. on other forums (which I prefer not to mention names, because that's not what this is for) they just say that bleach is on mountain level and other nonsense like that, and never present a real and coherent argument as to how a bleach character loses . for example, every time there is a fight: yhwach vs some naruto character. they just say that the naruto character wins, why he can blow up big things and nothing else, they never present coherent arguments about how a naruto character deals with the almighty. when they don't say other nonsense like genjutsu g.g. It's nasty, mediocre and disgusting, literally.
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Lol at DB using the novels and recent anime changes for Kenpachi. Can't wait for the black hole stuff to be used from Kenjaku to upscale Sukuna to solar or something.
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:usopplaugh:
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I really like the explanation Kubo just gave for Komamaru's human form in Klub outside question 593.
