Baam (Enryu's Thorn Ignition Mode) vs Zahard (Data Form)

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Let's end this fight that did not have a conclusion in the canon work.

Both in 6-C+ Versions or both at Full Power

Baam:

Data Zahard:

Inconclusive: 1 (Jobbo)

 

[Jobbo]

They seemed pretty even in the series. Baam stated that he wouldn't be able to use his full power for long but he didn't seem to be experiencing any side effects so I'll vote inconclusive.

 

[Litentric_Teon]

I mean, Baam one shot part of Zahard's body. Here, under SBA, he's willing to kill. So he'd likely aim for a different spot to incapacitate Zahard. Not to mention that the clash of their final attacks only left him unconscious because he lacked the energy to retain ignition, as opposed to Zahard who was rendered unconscious due to Baam's attack.

Obviously, it won't be easy, but I'm pretty sure Baam takes it merely through aiming to actually incapacitate with Endless Sky.

 

[Jobbo]

Zahard was underestimating him at the time.

Also, do check out this thread as well.

 

[Litentric_Teon]

What would be different here? They have no knowledge of each other. And Zahard explicitly said he couldn't identify how Endless Sky was different from any of Baam's other attacks.

I'm going to wait until a Madoka advocate arrives. She has a lot of hax like death manipulation and life absorption, so I'd rather hear an explanation on how that version of her fights and uses her hax. I wouldn't be able to make an honest or fair vote with my lack of knowledge on her and her verse as a whole.

 

[Jobbo]

The fact that Zahard is starting maxed out.

And I'll put in some arguments on Madoka's side shortly.

 

[Litentric_Teon]

Zahard being maxed out doesn't change his inherent character flaws, or sensing abilities. He was surely at max power, if not close to max power when observing endless sky.

 

[Jobbo]

Edahn said Lecalius' forms represent Zahard's levels of seriousness, so he wasn't fully serious until he used Leviathan.