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Death is not the only condition.
Sba means shoto is willing to kill, but doesn't make it his first option. I don't care much for this fight, just wanted to throw that in there.
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AZULA VS TODOROKI ( 4-9-0 ) GRACE 🔥❄🔥
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and why not? Shoto always starts with ice and as we know, necrosis comes from ice
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If you want him to use it just put in the OP “win condition is death”
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I didn't put it because I didn't think it was necessary, and when I make these threads I want the two of them to fight at the maximum of their strength
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Then put that it in the OP.
Thats what’s gonna cause neither of the two to hold back
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it's done
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it's a good argument....I'll be backBruh, that just throws away the whole fight. Azula just gets one shot by the necrosis.
It needs to be in character for this to be a fair fight
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Azula FRA
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Todoroki FRA
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Not true, there have been times in the series where benders have taken control of other bender's moves. Master Pakku took control of Katara's waterbendering once and Avatar Warn redirected several other firebender's fire away from him. There are other examples, but those are two that come to the top of my head.
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Apologies I only remember seasons 1 and 2.
Of course Pakku controlling katara’s bending would matter if this was a water bender fight
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What I mean is benders in general can take control of other bender's attacks in general, it just doesn't happen that often in either series. I did give the Wan example, which was firebending.
Azula can use her fire to rocketboost herself, but as far as I can remember, she couldn't use it to fly until season 3.
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What are Azula's victory conditions?
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Getting Todoroki in a melee combo (I think?)
Im sure you can guess why the zoner who can completely zone out a melee fighter while also having a way of instant killing is gonna have more votes
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FAR SUPERIOR COMBAT AND SKILLS
AND LIGHTNING
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I mean, the difference of the heat of the flames doesn't translate to raw power. The same clash caused an explosion that caused fire to rain down on the nearby building, and the remnants of Azula's blue flames cooled down to orange fire, proving that it is hotter then Zuko's.
Lightning, and possibly hotter fire to bypass Todoroki's resistance.
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That’s odd because nobody notes the difference. If they were of a hotter temperature then I’m sure somebody would have noted the difference
Shouto can resist fire which can cause steel to melt incredibly quickly, I don’t remember that being shown in season 2 by Azula
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Not steel, but there is this feat. Also more proof of her fire cooling down into regular fire. There's also this, though that's more like making stone explode rather then melting it.
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impressive, but I don't think I need to remind you how big and massive Shoto's ice is and how fast Shoto can create them.
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If she gets trapped in the ice, she could exhale from her nostrils to melt the ice in front of her face. As Cisco pointed out, Katara in the series finale completely covered herself in ice and was able to melt the bit in front of her by exhaling. Iroh could also exhale steam from his nostrils that was hot enough to make metal red-hot, so it's been shown that firebenders can do this too. If I recall, a relatively untrained Zuko in the first episode also exhaled steam. The reason why she didn't do this in the finale is because Azula had gone craycray by that point. With one good breath, Azula can create lightning that is capable of shattering rock, so it should let her smash through the ice. As seen with Mako, firebenders can still make lightning with very little movement.
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That Iroh and I’m certain that we can’t compare S2 Azula to Iroh
it wasn’t completely solid, it a hollow sphere iirc
I don’t think that’s how that works.
No matter how crazy she is someone isn’t just going to forget how to do that, especially when she’s likely trying every option
especially because katana froze it herself, she likely had control of the ice and how it was formed
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Azula from season 2 would be able to do the same thing that katara demonstrated at the end of the series? by the way, Shoto managed to destroy several cement walls at once with just one FFHW, and the FBs don't get weaker in colder temperatures? and by the way, how fast can she get off the ice?
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I don't agree with this. If she was thinking straight, she should have been able to use her firebreath to melt through the chains that Katara had put her in, as fire has been shown to melt chains before in Avatar.
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oh please, melting chains is completely different from melting huge and massive glaciers
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I wasn't comparing the two in that post.
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ah ok, honestly, there's nothing more to say here, just wait 24 hours now
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It won't change anything, but if it wasn't clear, I'm voting for Azula.
Edit: Also, I just found a vid of Zuko literally melting ice by exhaling. Given that by this point in the series Zuko was much less skilled the Azula, she should be able to do this, since she can also breathe fire.
Edit: Also, I just found a vid of Zuko literally melting ice by exhaling. Given that by this point in the series Zuko was much less skilled the Azula, she should be able to do this, since she can also breathe fire.
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it takes her a whole year just to create that small ice dome while Shoto can create much BIGGER glaciers in practically a second lol and in the case of her second ice attack, she needs the water to create the ice, while Shoto already creates the ice INSTANTLY
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I mean, comparing the durations of the attack doesn't matter in this instance since Zuko got caught in it. I'm just pointing out what Azula could do if she got caught in Todoroki's attack.
Also, Shoto's profile says that he needs to use fire again once he uses his ice wall attack to heat up his body temp, so it's not like he can spam that against her should she manage to escape.
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he can keep both on at the same times, it’s why HHHC is so powerful in series, when Using both sides he truly has no weaknesses
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Then why doesn't he do that all the time? Shouldn't the weakness section say that he can do that to negate the weakness?
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