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August vs. Trafalgar Law

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@bepo4151

Those are bad examples since eye abilities are caster magics in FT so the sharingan should be copyable and August doesn't apparently need to absorb/copy someones mp/chakra to mimic their powers.
 
Delta3000 said:
@bepo4151

Those are bad examples since eye abilities are caster magics in FT so the sharingan should be copyable and August doesn't apparently need to absorb/copy someones mp/chakra to mimic their powers.
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Using your magic from your hands or from your eyes makes no difference so he can copy caster magic, the problem with sharingan is the fact it's something that has to do with blood line so basically if you don't have sharingan you can't use those powers while for caster magic in Fairy tail anyone can master it considering it's not something particular that one specific persons under specific conditions can use, that why we consider him as not being able to copy sharingan abilities...
 
Ok... that makes me wonder if he can copy dragon slayer magic then (and any of the other slayer magics).

Crash could still be used to null Law's DF ability and August should also still be able to copy haki (as it's not some holder/genetic power).
 
Delta3000 said:
Ok... that makes me wonder if he can copy dragon slayer magic then (and any of the other slayer magics)
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Yes, because in the end anyone can learn slaying magic, it's just harder to learn cause or you need a dragon(not sure who teaches God and demon magic thou it seems more like something you simply learn) to teach you or you can use the lacrima but in the end what matters is the fact anyone can use it for that he can copy it since you don't need a specific carateristic to use it.
 
@williamshadow: You could be compleatly right but my thinking is; August's inability to copy holder magic (2nd gen dragon slayers would technically be holder mages as they are getting their DS powers from a magic item) may mean he cannot copy bestowed powers either since holder type items are created by attaching magic to objects. From what we learned from Irene we found that to become a (1st gen) DS you have to have a dragon enchant their magic on to you or in Belserion's words Bestow a dragons power unto a Human.

The same could go for the other slayer magics because Gray got DeS magic via power bestowal and Chelia got GS magic by reading a magical book.
 
Cana got fairy glitter from Mavis and uses it simple trough the mark on her arm and yet he copied it and nullfied it.

August needs the "source" a lacrima inside of a human's body makes humans body the source of magic. When dragon enchant their magic onto a body of a human the body becomes the source just like when Mavis gave (bestowed) fairy glitter on Cana her body became the source and for that in all of this cases he can copy it because he is copying from the source it self...
 
If that is the case then why can't he copy holder magic since the magic item is the 'source' of the magic?
 
Simple because he has two requirements to copy someone's magic.

1: he must copy from the source of magic

2: he must have the same source in order to copy opponents magic.

Now trying to make my self clear here.

Cana uses fairy glitter:

First requirement "source" Cana's body.

Second requirement "identical source" August uses his own body (both humans so both have same characteristics) copying successful.

Cana uses "magical cards" to activate a spell.

First requirement "source" magical cards

Second requirement "identical source" August doesn't have those those magical cards which means he doesn't have the neccessry source to copy the magic stored inside of those magical cards. Copying failed.
 
That would explain why he cannot copy from magic items but it also implys that August cannot copy magic from a non human or a human with altered physiology such as a dragon or a dragon slayer because they have different/non human characteristics, the same as the magic items.
 
@Delta


Possibly why Brandish said only Irene has a chance at beating August. She has DS magic and has a staff, which August will need in order to copy her enchantments.
 
August for reasons above. Law cannot deal with all his hax. Considering his experience advantage and precog it's gonna be even easier to put him down.

Also for the guy that said Law has precog, he doesn't have it.
 
Delta3000 said:
That would explain why he cannot copy from magic items but it also implys that August cannot copy magic from a non human or a human with altered physiology such as a dragon or a dragon slayer because they have different/non human characteristics, the same as the magic items.
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He can copy dragon slayer magic for sure since the altered body means almost nothing considering they still keep most (all) of their human characteristics. Dragons themself or like of Acnologia and Irene should be an exception considering dragons are completely different from humans while DS are still the same with small changes since their dragonification processes was stopped.

But again i only suppose their body's must be the same for him to copy since we never got a confirmation of him being able to copy Irene or Acnologia.
 
I don't think Law can keep up with August. Sure he has higher strength, but not by much. And what worth is that strength when August can just cause illusions to him and make him go mad? His reflector should be more than enough to give him the win since it can take Law's sword away, therefore severely gimping his ability to fight.
 
@wiliamshadow: By that logic Lions and Tigers are the same thing and August could copy genetic powers like the sharingan.
 
Delta3000 said:
@wiliamshadow: By that logic Lions and Tigers are the same thing and August could copy genetic powers like the sharingan.
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In fact it's probably why Irene didn't care about him getting mad and why he didn't attack Acnologia after all he with his powers he could of faced Acnologia or at least he would try...
 
( Hold up so in a verse equalized match like this wouldn't August only be able to copy Law's Haki and not his DF ability? Because in the Standard battle assumptions it says that "supernatural energy that almost everyone in a Verse has, which is necessary to fight the characters of said Verse, will be assumed to be the equivalent energy that the opponents use in their techniques so that a proper fight can happen." The Supernatural energy would be Haki correct? Or does that apply to DF abilities as well? )
 
@williamshadow: Well if he couldn't copy hax them he would be at a disadvantage and since irene would know this and consequently know she could beat him because of it - that and her enchantment lets her make magic items on the fly and deus zero might be able remove August's copied powers. August probably didn't challenge Acno because he didn't have an escape plan like Irene did - without one he would eventually be overwhelmed and killed.

@knight: the verse eq would mean August can copy both Law's haki and DF powers but we arn't letting August copy Law's DF because that would be to stompy - Or at least that's how i understand the situation.
 
@Delta so would that mean August couldn't nullify Law's DF? Sorry for asking so much questions just want to clear things up.
 
Not directly with his copy magic but he could with the powers he has already copied such as Crash and reflector.
 
every thing ive seen leads me to belive that said ability must be used before august can nullify it therefore law could just remove august heart as his first attack this incapacitates august and then law can easily kill

i vote for law mid dif
 
Law won't be able to do that because August's copy nullification reverses the affect of the ability used on him (it would put his heart back into his body) plus August has precog and can shatter/nullify Law's room with crash.
 
Wait Law has Soul Manipulation correct? So he could just use that if I'm not mistaken. There's also Gamma Knife which i don't see August tanking.
 
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