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And again there's other feats outside Solaris, and bad writting is not a argument, Penders sucked, next please
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There's Ultra's blatant feat, and his writting sucked, even ignoring power scaler nerds, like most of the community hated his writting, his lore, equidna obsession, etc. Power scalers are the least likely people to hate Penders im factThe real cal howard said:Except there's not. At the absolute best, there's one with Mammoth Mogul. And at best, you'd have to change the reasoning. Penders didn't suck (well, not with writing). It's just that his work is being taken out of context in order to give Sonic powers in exchange for breaking the story.
No offense. I do mean it.
Idc about other franchises, pretty sure time travelling via speed alone is textbook immesurable, I renember alot of staff disagreeing with you in other threads about this general subjectThe real cal howard said:Time travel through speed alone is his feat. Which is like, nobody gets. IDW Discord is getting downgraded, and SA Supes and gosh darned Wally West have it as separate speeds.
I read the rest of the paragraph. But you don't have any proof that Sonic had the Ring Aura during those events.Foneybone1 said:Did you read the rest of that paragraph?
Also no, I literaly just explained how I did not give up, go back and read my old reply.
Sorry, not give up, just changed the subject as I was countering.Foneybone1 said:At risk of coming across as dismissing criticism, this is the same problem we had with the fate hax discussion. Before trying to discredit Sonic's deaths, there needs to be a reason to believe Sonic has type 8 immortality, what is it?
Because all off them are literal recolors, all of them literaly looks like Knuckles, the fanbase hated, that's a million memes about it, and the Chaos Force is for power level nerds, and Knuckles Enerjak and Dark Mobius were by Flynn, nobody liked Enerjak that much beforehand, like Dimitri EnerjakThe real cal howard said:Though, why do you guys hate the echidna obsession? The lore there was leagues better, if I'm saying the right stuff. He started the Chaos Force and Enerjak and the like, right?
This reasoning isn't good enough for it not to be possible.Foneybone1 said:I've already mentioned that, if type 8 is real, Mephilis making Sonic vulnerable is a very important detail to leave out, in addition to the fact that him being able to overcome Sonic's ring aura when massively more powerful characters can't would be crazy inconsistent. Also, Saying he could have immortality negation on the grounds that we aren't told he doesn't is effectively confirmation bias.
True enough. I am a combination of badly informed and very overworked in this case, so it is hard for me to form proper conclusions.The real cal howard said:>Majority of staff
Only DDM and myself have responded here. Ant is constantly on the fence and has no opinion here.
Except, it can't be when Silver fought Scourge or when he helped Rotor. The title of the newspaper says "Sonic battles former friend" (not "Sonic dies to former friend").Foneybone1 said:The journal is not referring to Silver's actions during his last trip, because as explained above, it can't. He can't read about things he's done in the past that he has yet to do himself. All it says is Silver fought alongside Sonic, but the only time this happens during his last trip was when he saves him, meaning the Freedom Fighters aren't defeated. Therefore it can only be refering to 194 and or 215 as in both trips Silver fights alongside Sonic in ways people would have known about. Silver himself says the Freedom Fighters vanished during "this period", but the timeframe he is working under for the betrayal to happen covers over 50 issues so this similarly is not limited to his last trip.
Any information that alludes to events past Antione getting into a coma came from the newspaper. That is a non-negotiable fact.Foneybone1 said:I'd like to note that Silver is not reading from the newspaper, he is showing Mogul the picture while reading from the journal (not that it makes a difference) Silver doesn't act out the journal/newspaper because that's not how it works. The timeline does not change until Silver time-travels, and history cannot reflect actions that have not taken place. Again, he can't read about things he's done in the past that he has yet to do himself. If he had already gone back and saved Sonic the the future would reflect that, and he would remember due to being desynced from time.
ElixirBlue said:Ok, here it is:
Everything I wrote is important for the argument as a whole.
https://archiesonic.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:ElixirBlue/Type_8_Existence_Eraser
No, i just saw nothing contradicting that robitization was already a tall order for the ring aura and that everyone else was brough back from the same EE Sonic come back from.ShakeResounding said:You must have just let 98% of the thread fly above your head, buddy