Arceus Vs Archie Sonic(Pokemon Vs Archie sonic comics)

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Yeah no. I’m completely against the notion that his abilities aren’t 5-D based off the simple fact that all of the powers Arceus has would be ORIGINALLY 5-D in the first place, because they originally come from True Arceus to begin with.

This is why all of the verses abilities that Arceus got when his hax got upgraded were agreed to become 4-D at that time, because these said powers originated from the 4-D Arceus before they were bestowed to all Pokémon in the multiverse.

The same principle should go here. Powers that originally belong to a now 5-D being should be 5-D.

 

[Sniper670]

Honestly I agree with you. But when they start demanding feats of those 4D hax working on 5D, it's going to be a helluva extrapolations

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Honestly I agree with you. But when they start demanding feats of those 4D hax working on 5D, it's going to be a helluva extrapolations

Yes, but the thing that separates Arceus's case from the standard is that this case gives us a 5-D being who, according to this verse's context, was always 5-D from the start in his true form. And the abilities of this said being originated from them. With this context, that is telling us that these abilities originated from a 5-D source.

Thus, they were always 5-D before being distributed to weaker beings in their verse. That makes it the exception as you can't argue something isn't what it originally always was.

 

[Sniper670]

Need some help on this thread about this same issue we're talking about

 

[Ego]

So uh Arceus stomps now?

 

[Sniper670]

We're working on that. Arceus is a very special case.

It's not definite, with of course, a lot of people disagreeing his hax is 5D

 

[Ego]

I'm on the side of agreeing it's 5D but on the other I'm not sure

 

[Ego]

I'm at my bullshit ass job ATM so I'll be back later

 

[Ego]

Bump

 

[Sniper670]

What stops Arceus from using plot manipulation to change the narrative and make him the protagonist tho?

 

[Ego]

What stops Arceus from using plot manipulation to change the narrative and make him the protagonist tho?

Arceus has that?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Arceus has that?

Was joking lmao.

 

[Sniper670]

Why not. Game Freak HQ exists in all the mainline game. And they write the story. Arceus here embodies and transcends the verse. All of it are aspect of his being and he watches over them

Hehe

 

[Ego]

Was joking lmao.

Um ok

 

[Sniper670]

Even Meowth has a remote that can fast forward the plot

And team rocket directly overwrote the op with their talk show. Usurped the narrators position and didn't allow him to continue until they were done

 

[Ego]

K

 

[Sniper670]

 

[Ego]

I mean arceus having plot would be cool

 

[Ego]

Now that I think about it

Shouldn't Arceus have toon force in it's profile?

Because hareta has toon force or...

 

[Sniper670]

A lot of things aren't on his profile..... He has toon force via meowth

 

[XXKINGXX69]

A lot of things aren't on his profile..... He has toon force via meowth

No, embodying all existence doesn't mean you have the abilities of everyone in the verse. As of now, he should just have the power of all Pokemon types

 

[Sniper670]

Which would include toon force.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Arceus doesn't use that in character

 

[Sniper670]

How will toon force even be useful here. It's something that he has, simple as that

 

[XXKINGXX69]

How will toon force even be useful here. It's something that he has, simple as that

??? and

 

[Sniper670]

Ego asked whether Arceus should have toon force, and I answered that.
It has nothing to do with Arceus using it in this match. Just something he thought he should have

 

[Sniper670]

Someone close the thread pls