Well the problem is The Reality Machine 2 is a new character. Plus it's 100% the Reality Machine 2 who induced it. A main plot of the episode was the characters getting Beerus to come save them. So they asked people around the world to make the most delicious thing they can think of. Which the Machine made a candy ball from those thoughts. That gave him the *****. Plus Arale isn't the strongest toon user in series. She has lost to people before.
Ye, but at the end of the day, the Gag plot manipulated the events in favour of Arale, so another character intervined, so inderectly, her Toon force saved her, thus that's why she has plot manip, and thus Beerus couldn't overcome it. The gag plot was in favour of Arale.
Exactly, exactly, if that's the case, that means that Beerus is indeed not resistant, becouse he was affected by Gag effects, such as having a stomach ache, becouse you know Gag is a comedy, funny effect, and thus Beerus was affected. And yeah, Arale's plot Hax is passive and saved her from being Hakai'd by Beerus, inderectly.
Saying it's just because of her is kind of reach imo. You would need proof that this us what happened. Alot of people in fiction just get saved by others. Including in Dr Slump. I wouldn't say that since others saved her and saved the day in the series that it supports her plot Manipulation.
Well the feats would be from affecting Beerus this episode. Plus it's likely it can do anything the first one did. But the Reality Machine isn't something you would fight, its a tool. But the scientists have made things more potent than Arale before, so they could definitely do it again.
From the episode all of them were at the conclusion that the candy ball from The Reality Machine 2 was why. They were just pondering on what in it did it in the ball.
Still disagree on this point because of my previous comment.
That means he sees Beerus, unlike Vegeta, as stronger than Arale, so of course he's gonna be worried. She doesn't have like super duper pontent healing(compared to some other gag franchises anyway) & a robot(from Dr.Mashirito i belive) blew her to pieces via brute force so don't need TF Immunity to beat her
Agreed
Exactly, and that would strengthen the fact that she has passive plot manipulation. The events just saved her in a comical/gag way, not in a serious way like serious characters. And thus Beerus got affected in a comical way by the train of events.
Again, you are just assuming, the Reality Machine has feats, but It doesn't have the impressive feats that Arale has, we don't know if it's Toon force would be stronger than Arale's, both never fought, and assuming that "likely" or "probably", the Reality Machine is stronger is a huge assumption becouse we don't know if the Reality Machine belongs to that category.
That would be the effect of the candy ball not the reality machine itself
Exactly
Yes, but that's what Gag means, which means comedic effects, funny stuff.
Archie Sonic being the most blatant example
She could've just like trapped in manga frames while he was talking, she reacted to him talking. Its not like Beerus would be able to see her leave the manga, unless he wasn’t resistant. Strength isnt a big factor. When she was defeated she got punched by attacks which could punch the moon from earth. So Toonforce had to due with her defeat.
She was saved in more serious ways. As when she was defeated by Dr.Mashirito. The other characters like gatchan got more serious.
Well since its a tool. Arale would be better in certain ways. But going off statements and reactions of characters. He would be stronger in a aspect.
Idk if I agree. Since pretty much everyone in Slump has Toonforce. But I don't remember him doing something besides what his programming is.
You are misunderstanding yes, as someone said above, the plot acted upon it's own and saved Arale for being killed by Beerus, making the latter having a stomach ache in a comical way. Which gives Arale Passive plot manipulation.
What he means is that Beerus ate the candy and was fine but SOMEHOW started getting a stomach ache as soon as he targeted Arale
The main things for Beerus is Goku stating that it wouldn't work. He was affected by the byproduct of the Reality Machine 2.
It isn't of you actually know what Gag means, and how there are Toon characters saved by plot, a d others with Passive plot manipulation. You just have to see the details.
Yeah, becouse you know, Plot armour exists.
Well tbf Arale already has reasons for passive plot hax
Yes, but the problem is, Arale was saved in a ridiculous/Gag way by the plot, the basis of gag characters is the comedic effects they can do, and the stuff that can even happen by their presence. And the character doesn't need to be aware of having a passive ability lol.
I'll ask about the sun feat.
Can't we just put "possibly/likely" as a comprise?
Yeah, which I think it's better than giving Beerus resistance towards Toon force. He was still affected by narrative comedic stuff.
It would be funny if the majority of people agreed and she got this. What are the reasons for the other characters? This instance just seems like a theory. Since we're relying on the assumption that others are under her control. But I suppose if the majority agree
