FantaRin_The_First
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Got ask, is there noteworthy feats for the lesser Supes in diabolical canon episodes?
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Another The Boys Upgrade
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Pog. Aesthetic tierBOY I SPOKE TOO SOON ABOUT HOMELANDER.
Homelander survives a chemical plant exploding
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Homelander survives a chemical plant exploding (Inverse Square Law Edition)
High 8-C Homelander confirmed thanks to @DMUA's contributions.
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Very.
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Soldier Boy, Queen Maeve and Butcher with Temp V all become High 8-C+ from this.
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Yep
nubian craters concrete and Groundhawk punches right through a bank wall
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yeahhh
I was thinking the same
FantaRin_The_First
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Hm. Did a bit of a rough calc. And used a window [got an average height of 48 inches via google-fu] in the scene where Groundhawk punches right through a bank wall (Will have to retry this at a late date to make sure sure I didn't screw up on anything, so don't put much stock into this.)
Here are my values.
Length - 4.06678786m
Thickness - 0.464178357m
Height - 3.2827028m
Combined altogether is 6.19680701 m^3 or 6196807.01 cm^3
There was steel inside of the concrete in the shot, so I can use the value for reinforced concrete - doesn't look to be pulv (610 J/cc), and the pieces are too small for frag (10 J/cc), so I gotta use the value for v.frag (61.2 J/cc). Sadly, Groundhank needed three hits to break through the banks wall. So...
6196807.01 cm^3 * 61.2 J/cc *(1/3) = 126414863 joules, or 126.414863 megajoules (9-A).
Again, I gotta make sure I did screw up in anywhere, so don't put too much stock into this.
FantaRin_The_First
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Here.
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If any of the ends I made get approved, then lower-tier Supes will get a meaty upgrade. I think.
Groundhawk Wall Busting
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If any of the ends I made get approved, then lower-tier Supes will get a meaty upgrade. I think.
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And Starlight with Absorption
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It’s morbin time
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But how do we know they scale to Groundhawk?
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By lesser Supes, I meant people like Black Noir, Stormfront, Pre-Training Maeve, and so forth. Although, from my understanding, wasn't Groundhawk a lesser Supe himself or am I wrong?
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Nah, you're right. He even mentioned Vought coming to his place a couple of time
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Changes look alright to me
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Maybe Diabolic episode featuring Groundhawk should not be used to scale to main cast hero.Here.
Groundhawk Wall Busting
If any of the ends I made get approved, then lower-tier Supes will get a meaty upgrade. I think.
I think it is a high-ball for The Deep. A-Train at that time is heavily weakened even than the time he manages to pull trains and he can't run to The Deep. I feel that the exact feat of The Deep attacking A-Train can be calculated and used instead.
As I see that some agree with At most, IDK if there is any evidence suggesting that that's Starlight's best. Also, the electricity feat can be calculated too, similar to this: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...estone_Returns_feats:_Static_and_Icon_edition.
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And V.Frag End of my calc was approved, methinks.
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Got to ask, why tho. The ep that features Groundhawk is canon, from my understanding, and Groundhawk probably isn't that strong when compared to the upper brass of Supes... The Deep (probably) won't get any part of my calc, but the supes I already mentioned (Black Noir, Stormfront, etc) should... Also, they are already 9-A, so better 9-A calc for 'em... I think.
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Reference is needed for the bold text. It is for more accuracy.
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Again, there's no proof he actually got weakened. Remember that a V24 amped Hughie landing a punch on A-Train actually shook A-Train, he literally thought it was impossible for a human to hurt him. And this was a pissed Hughie, a casual Hughie punched through a guy clean while learning his powers. Hughie also once pushed and pinned down one of Homelander's arm. Not saying he scales, but Hughie being a low tier Supe who are 9-B+ isn't far off, especially since he's taken a punch from 9-B characters like Billy.
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Here you go. From this post, and form articles that I have seen (and statements in this site), the three eps in this twitter post are the canon eps. Heck, the High 8-C Calc we have for Homelander is from the ep that is in the group of ep considered canon. Rana might know more.
Also, speaking of 9-B, I... can't find any 9-B+ Rating calc anywhere.
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You know, I actually looked everywhere and came to the conclusion that 9-B+ seems to be just from upscaling above Billy Butcher.
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We already knew this LOL, that's why we calc'd it.
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Mario told me to provide a source, so I did.
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Btw, why in Heaven's Feel do we not have a profile for Hughie?
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Ah. Okay then.
You can also use these two links as further support.
The Boys: Diabolical's Finale Is Canon and Connects to Season 3 - IGN
The Boys: Diabolical has an "unexpected tie-in" with The Boys Season 3, plus a final episode that is canon to the flagship show.
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Someone forgot to do it?
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The Wall level+ came from Noir's calc, but that calc got modified and the results was just Wall level.
Now, I won't be able to quote every single comment here, but I wanna say that I made several calcs from the TV Series version of the verse (But no one seems to wanna check them out to give me the green light, specially since I also wanted to make a CRT)
I would say that part of that CRT is to downgrade the boys to 9-C since it makes way more sense than 9-B from the logic of the verse itself, but also that the calcs would support the 9-B+ and 9-A ratings for the supes, as well as 8-C for the god tiers.
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Another thing I wanted to do alongside the CRT lol. Though I'll say that I think we all agree on him being 10-B, right?
Like, I feel that 10-A is a little too much, but debatable. Anything higher is a nope.
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This one is likely not the best to use at all.
Distance from the bomb used is wrong and so is Homelander's surface area, as well as using too many variables for the outside structures to use.
Abaddon's calc uses the least panels, uses more reliable variables like the chemical tank, and actually uses Homelander's true distance from the explosion when he lasers through it.
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I noticed something though.BOY I SPOKE TOO SOON ABOUT HOMELANDER.
Homelander survives a chemical plant exploding
Homelander survives a chemical plant exploding (Inverse Square Law Edition)
High 8-C Homelander confirmed thanks to @DMUA's contributions.
In the first image, the top of the tank is measured.
But on the other one, the line is covering more than the tank.
So, the measurements should be actually smaller than that.
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The tanker being smaller and the explosion pixel line remaining the same means...
You guessed it, another upgrade.
Wonder what you can get out of HD shots.
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I guess,
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8-B Homelander is fine, but is funny to think Butcher scales to that with V24 lmao. That's a strong-ass serum.
Anyways, if it's ok, I'll link the calcs I made so maybe you or someone else could check them out (I know I know, too many variables, but tbf, this is a live-action, so sizes should be consistent)
Anyways, if it's ok, I'll link the calcs I made so maybe you or someone else could check them out (I know I know, too many variables, but tbf, this is a live-action, so sizes should be consistent)
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MFW I messed up the pixel scaling that badly. My bad lol
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