Tier 7 The Boys - Now possible

[Qawsedf234]

Wait a second, where are you getting 800 Tons of TNT estimation from?

10% of 2,000 is 200

200 + 200 + 200 + 200 = 800

Why are you saying that Homelander scales to 60%?

Because when I did the math myself by substracting 2 by 40%

1 - 0.4 = 0.6

You did the math wrong

If most vary between 1-2, shouldn't we like average it to 1.5 and go from there?

We could, but 2 KT is a consistent enough value that they make artillery shells with that yield.

 

[Legion350]

Maeve scales to the heat of that explosion no matter what since she was bear hugging Soldier Boy throughout, before and after detonation

3 staff agreed, so you can change profiles, and put them at 800 tons


Btw, don't forget to make heat resistance CRT

I think it would help to know whether we treat heat resistance in the same way as energy, because I thought we measure dura & resistance by the second?

 

[Qurbonboev]

I think it would help to know whether we treat heat resistance in the same way as energy, because I thought we measure dura & resistance by the second?

AFAIK site does require person being exposed to heat for bit of time, for it to be count. Otherwise any IRL person who survived lightning would get 28000C° heat resistance. But I think 0.1 second inside nuclear fireball would suffice

 

[Legion350]

So, according to this calculator, fireball from 500 ton nuke would last around 0.1 seconds. According to paper above, fireball of 1.7 kilotonn would maintain inner temperature of 200K Kelvin for at least 0.2 seconds (page 18). Time of fireball at certain temperature changes with yield in a yield^(1/3) way, 500 tonn fireball should be able to maintain inner temperature of 200K Kelvin during its 0.1 seconds of existence

AFAIK site does require person being exposed to heat for bit of time, for it to be count. Otherwise any IRL person who survived lightning would get 28000C° heat resistance. But I think 0.1 second inside nuclear fireball would suffice

Thanks for the sources, its very appreciated. It makes it much easier to see where your argument is coming from. Unfortunately, I think you may have misread the timescales. I attached scans from the rand paper provided.

Spoiler: Figure 11, Page 18, From Rand Paper

Spoiler: Figure 18, Page 28, From Rand Paper

I think you mixed up milliseconds and seconds. The 200k value could only be true in a very small span of time. As the paper points out, around a second, a megaton explosion caps at 10K at the highest pressure. I'm not a physicist, so I won't try to convert that into the temperature of a smaller nuclear explosion. But the result is most likely at or below their current heat resistance value anyways. Also, the same source I sent earlier mentioned that a 800 kt nuclear explosion drops to 16K after a second which fits in this range.

 

[Qurbonboev]

Snip

My bad.
Figure 15, page 24 has figures for late fireball temperatures. Applying correction due to Soldier Boy explosion being much weaker (0.5 kilotonn vs 1 megaton, so it should take (1000/0.5)^(1/3)=12.6 less time) and Maeve being right in center of it, she would experience 100,000K temperatures for 0.005 seconds, and 10,000K for around 0.1 seconds. Still much better than current 3500C°

 

[Legion350]

My bad.
Figure 15, page 24 has figures for late fireball temperatures. Applying correction due to Soldier Boy explosion being much weaker (0.5 kilotonn vs 1 megaton, so it should take (1000/0.5)^(1/3)=12.6 less time) and Maeve being right in center of it, she would experience 100,000K temperatures for 0.005 seconds, and 10,000K for around 0.1 seconds. Still much better than current 3500C°

Which trendline are you using as the basis for this?

 

[Qurbonboev]

Which trendline are you using as the basis for this?

Even after 1.4 seconds, fireball (from 1 megaton bomb) maintains temperatures above 10,000K in epicenter. 0.5 kilotonn bomb would maintain it for around 0.1 seconds

 

[ByArrow]

The changes have been implemented. Shouldn't this be closed now?

 

[Legion350]

The changes have been implemented. Shouldn't this be closed now?

Yeah, the heat resistance stuff should be in a separate thread where more people can see it/respond.

 

[James11221]

Netron bombs can reach up to 10 kilotons of TNT and are nuclear weapons. Therefore, in Season 5, if they give statements about Homelander having kilotons of TNT power, being able to destroy the city, or possessing nuclear bomb-level power, will not contradict Edgar’s statement

If conflicting statements are made, for example, if Homelander is said to possess megatons of TNT-level power, we will discuss it and decide which statement is more valid.

If a higher feat is achieved, we will prioritize the feat because Feats > Statements.

But that means for Now we can take the max power of a neutron bomb and put an at most rating

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

The changes have been implemented. Shouldn't this be closed now?

Sure.