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Another DBZ upgrade, this time for Yajirobe

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What are we even debating anymore? This should be fine to add, I see staff agreed.
If Yajirobe scales to oozaru Vegeta or just his armor. I think he doesn't scale to oozaru vegeta because I think tail doesn't scale to durability, but other people disagree so
 
Also if 5-B does get accepted, someone else already said it, but it should be 5-B, 5-C without katana as Yajirobe never fights without his katana
 
As I said before, 'with Katana' is equally correct (technically) and less verbose.

Anyway, would we need a Higher for King Piccolo Saga Yajirobe?

Edit: Reading the manga, I'd say so. Cymbal could make him bleed, withstand his punches and force him to flee his electricity attacks, but he one-shots him with his Katana. Without his sword, he's equal to Goku.
 
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As I said before, 'with Katana' is equally correct (technically) and less verbose.

Anyway, would we need a Higher for King Piccolo Saga Yajirobe?

Edit: Reading the manga, I'd say so. Cymbal could make him bleed, withstand his punches and force him to flee his electricity attacks, but he one-shots him with his Katana. Without his sword, he's equal to Goku.
Yeah thats fine too
 
5-B is definitely fine, but his sword scaling to the Great Ape is what's questionable.
What ever I frankly don't really care about that enough to start a discussion, as long as the revision can be applied.
As I said before, 'with Katana' is equally correct (technically) and less verbose.

Anyway, would we need a Higher for King Piccolo Saga Yajirobe?

Edit: Reading the manga, I'd say so. Cymbal could make him bleed, withstand his punches and force him to flee his electricity attacks, but he one-shots him with his Katana. Without his sword, he's equal to Goku.
I agree with this. 5-C, higher with katana (king piccolo arc) and 5-C, 5-B with katana (saiyan saga).
 
The Tail example really doesn't hold a lot of weight because tails are consistently the Achilles heel of Saiyans minus those who underwent special training and that's especially true for Great Ape forms. The entire concept centers around cutting off their tails reverts them to base forms. We'd be upgrading Paur to be as strong as Great Ape Goku who killed Grandpa Gohan who was a challenge for post Korin's Tower Training Goku. Which would be creating a big loop hole there; all he did was turn into a pair of scissors and cut off the tail. So it makes sense for Yajirobe, a character who is thought to be weaker than Chiaotzu and Yamcha can cut off Vegeta's tail. This also reminds me of Krillin cutting off Frieza 2nd form's tail. So I still thing that's a really bad scaling practice.

Anyway, I still have my thoughts on the armor cutting part. I don't think we should assume the durability of Saiyan armor is consistent; and slashing can often cut things that pure force often can't even despite AP gaps.
 
The Tail example really doesn't hold a lot of weight because tails are consistently the Achilles heel of Saiyans minus those who underwent special training and that's especially true for Great Ape forms. The entire concept centers around cutting off their tails reverts them to base forms. We'd be upgrading Paur to be as strong as Great Ape Goku who killed Grandpa Gohan who was a challenge for post Korin's Tower Training Goku. Which would be creating a big loop hole there; all he did was turn into a pair of scissors and cut off the tail. So it makes sense for Yajirobe, a character who is thought to be weaker than Chiaotzu and Yamcha can cut off Vegeta's tail. This also reminds me of Krillin cutting off Frieza 2nd form's tail. So I still thing that's a really bad scaling practice.

Anyway, I still have my thoughts on the armor cutting part. I don't think we should assume the durability of Saiyan armor is consistent; and slashing can often cut things that pure force often can't even despite AP gaps.
Goku as an oozaro is mindless unlike vegeta, who has perfect control over his oozaru transformation. It is much easier to cut goku's tail as it is hard to impossible for a mindless ape to maintain his guard.
Krillin cut frieza's tail with a distructo disk, which has shown to damage far superior opponents. And as far as I know, frieza's tail is not his weak spot. All this proves is that krillin was High 5-A with distructo disk in the namek saga.
The same principles can be applied to yajirobi too.
Regarding armors, I don't we should use that argument for this upgrade. Saiyan armors are specifically designed to be elastic thus, can better handle blunt force instead of piercing damage.
The tail argument is good though.
 
I don't have an issue with applying a Possibly 5-B for his Katana, it seems blatant enough.

the possibly is solely just because clothes/armour in fiction are treated extremely inconsistently. there are attacks that level mountain ranges and burn up opponents while just giving their opponents clothes or armour a "roughed up" look. this is mostly so that characters clothes don't get blown away when they fight lol.
 
I'm still personally against this, especially for the tails example. And Krillin only has Higher with Destructo Disk accepted, not going all the way to High 5-A. Although, it was also heavily implied Destructo Disk could have beheaded Nappa even though it completely missed. Which my thoughts on Yajirobe's sword is basically the same premise. Still, I don't think we should be giving two tiers higher jumps just because of a sharp weapon.

But some people are split as Asura thinks the cutting Vegeta's armor part works but not the tail by the sound of it, while there are some regular users who seem to think the opposite. But I think calling more staff who support Dragon Ball might be a better idea if needed.
 
the possibly is solely just because clothes/armour in fiction are treated extremely inconsistently. there are attacks that level mountain ranges and burn up opponents while just giving their opponents clothes or armour a "roughed up" look. this is mostly so that characters clothes don't get blown away when they fight lol.
That's what happens with clothes in fiction, armors can be treated consistently if they resist strong attacks several times which is the case with Saiyan Armors in DBZ as i explained before.
 
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I'm still personally against this, especially for the tails example. And Krillin only has Higher with Destructo Disk accepted, not going all the way to High 5-A. Although, it was also heavily implied Destructo Disk could have beheaded Nappa even though it completely missed. Which my thoughts on Yajirobe's sword is basically the same premise. Still, I don't think we should be giving two tiers higher jumps just because of a sharp weapon.

But some people are split as Asura thinks the cutting Vegeta's armor part works but not the tail by the sound of it, while there are some regular users who seem to think the opposite. But I think calling more staff who support Dragon Ball might be a better idea if needed.
Okay. I suppose that seems to make sense.

@Elizhaa @Dino_Ranger_Black @Dragonmasterxyz @Starter_Pack @LordGriffin1000

What do you think about this?
 
I still think an Higher with katana is way better than a blatant 5-B rating
 
Done with a katana via piercing damage a piece of paper can cut human skin does that mean the paper scales to a human's durability no it doesn't
This is the definition of Tier 5:
This category features characters, weapons, etcetera that are capable of creating and/or destroying moons, planets or dwarf stars.
Can you tell me where it's specified that piercing attacks are not valid for this tier?
 
Well, if we ain't accepting the tail thing, then I don't agree with straight 5-B either. Higher would be better.
 
Yeah if we are accepting that it's 5-B, not saying it should be, but then it should definitely say it because higher doesn't denote tier jumps
 
It seems like it has been decided Yajirobe will only get a "higher" rating for his sword. My apologies for any inconveniences.

Also, thank you for helping out Elizhaa.
 
I disagree with the higher rating because it indicates that yajirobe can only hit higher in his tier not a higher tier like 5-B.
Well, I am personally neutral, but the other staff members seem to disagree.
 
I’m neutral on higher or 5-B.

Disagree with monkey scaling for the reasons I gave before.
 
Okay. Thank you for the evaluation.
 
Yes, but only what was accepted. I will check if the page needs to be unlocked,
 
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