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What are we even debating anymore? This should be fine to add, I see staff agreed.
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If Yajirobe scales to oozaru Vegeta or just his armor. I think he doesn't scale to oozaru vegeta because I think tail doesn't scale to durability, but other people disagree soWhat are we even debating anymore? This should be fine to add, I see staff agreed.
Yeah thats fine tooAs I said before, 'with Katana' is equally correct (technically) and less verbose.
Anyway, would we need a Higher for King Piccolo Saga Yajirobe?
Edit: Reading the manga, I'd say so. Cymbal could make him bleed, withstand his punches and force him to flee his electricity attacks, but he one-shots him with his Katana. Without his sword, he's equal to Goku.
What ever I frankly don't really care about that enough to start a discussion, as long as the revision can be applied.5-B is definitely fine, but his sword scaling to the Great Ape is what's questionable.
I agree with this. 5-C, higher with katana (king piccolo arc) and 5-C, 5-B with katana (saiyan saga).As I said before, 'with Katana' is equally correct (technically) and less verbose.
Anyway, would we need a Higher for King Piccolo Saga Yajirobe?
Edit: Reading the manga, I'd say so. Cymbal could make him bleed, withstand his punches and force him to flee his electricity attacks, but he one-shots him with his Katana. Without his sword, he's equal to Goku.
Goku as an oozaro is mindless unlike vegeta, who has perfect control over his oozaru transformation. It is much easier to cut goku's tail as it is hard to impossible for a mindless ape to maintain his guard.The Tail example really doesn't hold a lot of weight because tails are consistently the Achilles heel of Saiyans minus those who underwent special training and that's especially true for Great Ape forms. The entire concept centers around cutting off their tails reverts them to base forms. We'd be upgrading Paur to be as strong as Great Ape Goku who killed Grandpa Gohan who was a challenge for post Korin's Tower Training Goku. Which would be creating a big loop hole there; all he did was turn into a pair of scissors and cut off the tail. So it makes sense for Yajirobe, a character who is thought to be weaker than Chiaotzu and Yamcha can cut off Vegeta's tail. This also reminds me of Krillin cutting off Frieza 2nd form's tail. So I still thing that's a really bad scaling practice.
Anyway, I still have my thoughts on the armor cutting part. I don't think we should assume the durability of Saiyan armor is consistent; and slashing can often cut things that pure force often can't even despite AP gaps.
We already do this with several characters...Still, I don't think we should be giving two tiers higher jumps just because of a sharp weapon.
That's what happens with clothes in fiction, armors can be treated consistently if they resist strong attacks several times which is the case with Saiyan Armors in DBZ as i explained before.the possibly is solely just because clothes/armour in fiction are treated extremely inconsistently. there are attacks that level mountain ranges and burn up opponents while just giving their opponents clothes or armour a "roughed up" look. this is mostly so that characters clothes don't get blown away when they fight lol.
Yajirobe's Attack Potency: Moon level (Trained with the other Z fighters and has a power level higher than that of Piccolo at the time when he destroyed the moon), Planet level with katana (Sliced through Vegeta's armor with ease)
Add the tail part tooSo, it's safe to apply this upgrade?
Okay. I suppose that seems to make sense.I'm still personally against this, especially for the tails example. And Krillin only has Higher with Destructo Disk accepted, not going all the way to High 5-A. Although, it was also heavily implied Destructo Disk could have beheaded Nappa even though it completely missed. Which my thoughts on Yajirobe's sword is basically the same premise. Still, I don't think we should be giving two tiers higher jumps just because of a sharp weapon.
But some people are split as Asura thinks the cutting Vegeta's armor part works but not the tail by the sound of it, while there are some regular users who seem to think the opposite. But I think calling more staff who support Dragon Ball might be a better idea if needed.
Done with a katana via piercing damage a piece of paper can cut human skin does that mean the paper scales to a human's durability no it doesn'tHe should have a blatant 5-B rating because of a blatant 5-B feat, how surprising...
Yeah, but with that example she could also block 7-A attacks with it according to the profileIt doesn't matter if it's with piercing damage, we already treat it as AP with other characters.
This is the definition of Tier 5:Done with a katana via piercing damage a piece of paper can cut human skin does that mean the paper scales to a human's durability no it doesn't
Can you tell me where it's specified that piercing attacks are not valid for this tier?This category features characters, weapons, etcetera that are capable of creating and/or destroying moons, planets or dwarf stars.
I agree with DarkDragonMedeus's points on Higher working better.Okay. I suppose that seems to make sense.
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What do you think about this?
Well, I am personally neutral, but the other staff members seem to disagree.I disagree with the higher rating because it indicates that yajirobe can only hit higher in his tier not a higher tier like 5-B.