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Another, another idea
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Reinhard gets in Gladheimr and then travel in it towards Paris where its fires its lasor to destroy Paris and Weather Report.
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I'm quite sure that HW's snailing is only city wide. I need to check thoPaChi2 said:
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Would the snailing work on Reinhard's skeleton army hes going to send out? Pretty sure they don't have eyeballs, brains, or even much of a will of their own?
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WR fra :vPaChi2 said:
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Weather doesn't even have the range to affect Rein with the new rules
Mindhax resist allows him to resist the snailing
The soul armor quite literally reflects misfortune so it wouldn't allow hw to affect him anyway
Rein heads into glads, tps to weather and kills him
Mindhax resist allows him to resist the snailing
The soul armor quite literally reflects misfortune so it wouldn't allow hw to affect him anyway
Rein heads into glads, tps to weather and kills him
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Pretty sure he won't teleport like with Methuselah and will use its in its giant skeleton mode while his skeleton army leads the charge, though either way Reinahrd is winning.
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What can Weather do here?
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Die badly
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Hl3 or bust said:
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Pachi changed it so Rein starts in Berlin and weather starts in Paris
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What does that change about the match?
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nothing, because Weather still has absolutely no win conditions
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Heavy Weather doesn't have the range so moving Rein that far probably only made it worse.
That being said, I think this may actually be a non-stop win for Reinhard due to using the loophole in Weather's ability against him.
When passively exposed to Heavy Weather, you either
1) fall over into a pile of snails
2) fall over into a comatose snail state to start a new life
3) slowly snail over time
4) some combo of the above
If Reinhard gets a bad roll, then its inconclusive. If Rein gets a good roll, then he survives but passively kills Weather.
Therefore, I vote for Reinhard. This man might actually get his first real win assuming you move it back into each others natural range
That being said, I think this may actually be a non-stop win for Reinhard due to using the loophole in Weather's ability against him.
When passively exposed to Heavy Weather, you either
1) fall over into a pile of snails
2) fall over into a comatose snail state to start a new life
3) slowly snail over time
4) some combo of the above
If Reinhard gets a bad roll, then its inconclusive. If Rein gets a good roll, then he survives but passively kills Weather.
Therefore, I vote for Reinhard. This man might actually get his first real win assuming you move it back into each others natural range
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Mindhax resist allows him to resist the snailing
The soul armor quite literally reflects misfortune so it wouldn't allow hw to affect him anyway
Rein heads into glads, tps to weather and kills him
The snailing is literally mindhax, drressing it up as "social influencing" doesn't change that. The soul armor also would stop heavy weather from affecting him even if he didn't have mindhax resist. So no weather has no wincons
The soul armor quite literally reflects misfortune so it wouldn't allow hw to affect him anyway
Rein heads into glads, tps to weather and kills him
The snailing is literally mindhax, drressing it up as "social influencing" doesn't change that. The soul armor also would stop heavy weather from affecting him even if he didn't have mindhax resist. So no weather has no wincons
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Pretty sure Heavy Weather isn't passive because it uses light, while the Spear's mind/soul hax is passive.
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The snailing is literally mindhax, drressing it up as "social influencing" doesn't change that. The soul armor also would stop heavy weather from affecting him even if he didn't have mindhax resist. So no weather has no wincons
We literally had an entire thread about how it's not mindhax but only social influencing. You saying they're the same thing amounts to 0.
We literally had an entire thread about how it's not mindhax but only social influencing. You saying they're the same thing amounts to 0.
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That thread was evaluated by a total of 0 staff members anyway and from what I could see there was still disagreement over saying lolsocialinfluencing means you can't resist it like mindhax
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I'm confused about the way how this match works.
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Your putting an idea that the person didn't already have in their mind into their mind against their will, whether that idea is your now a snail or you think your now a snail doesn't matter, how is that different to all the other types of mind control that puts thoughts in their mind?
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I see you only consider admins as staff members.
Dmua is a calc group member. If it was at least a dicussion mod or content mod they count.
Dmua is a calc group member. If it was at least a dicussion mod or content mod they count.
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It's not against their will any more than me telling you that you can blink manually, or that you can feel your toes, or that breathing is not manual if you think about it, or that you can almost always see your nose you just block it out, is against your will
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Except none of those examples are remotely close to using light to send messages into someone's mind and make them think they are a snail
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It's making them think something they would not normally think, it's against their will. They have no choice in whether or not they think their a snail.
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Regardless all of the stuffs up there, what can Weather do against passive mindhax and soulhax?
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No that is again no where near the same.
When you look at food you don't magically become hungry, you feel hungry if you already were. Looking at food doesn't force the idea of being hungry into your mind.
Heavy Weather quite literally magically forces the idea of being a snail into the mind of the viewer and turns them into a snail. That is textbook mindhax.
When you look at food you don't magically become hungry, you feel hungry if you already were. Looking at food doesn't force the idea of being hungry into your mind.
Heavy Weather quite literally magically forces the idea of being a snail into the mind of the viewer and turns them into a snail. That is textbook mindhax.
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JustARegularUser said:
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@regular
Be out of range since Pachi changed it
Other than that the rainbows can't even affect Rein because of the spiritual armor blocking the effects even if we say heavy weather's ability can bypass mindhax resistance so this is still a stomp
Be out of range since Pachi changed it
Other than that the rainbows can't even affect Rein because of the spiritual armor blocking the effects even if we say heavy weather's ability can bypass mindhax resistance so this is still a stomp
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Then why are people still discussing about this?
