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Right, looking back at it, you guys may have prematurely applied those proposed changes.Can you close this thread for me?
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Right, looking back at it, you guys may have prematurely applied those proposed changes.Can you close this thread for me?
Sepertinya It seems that this account cannot be opened : https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Fortzy62782?useskin=fandomdesktopBisakah Anda menautkan akun Anda di sini?
Well, you'll have to consult the one who banned you. As it seems like you've been banned for vandalism, or something similar.Sepertinya It seems that this account cannot be opened : https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Fortzy62782?useskin=fandomdesktop
Hahaha that's because I was told to make jokes to shock the one piece Indonesian fans.Well, you'll have to consult the one who banned you. As it seems like you've been banned for vandalism, or something similar.
I was the one who banned him for vandalism....Well, you'll have to consult the one who banned you. As it seems like you've been banned for vandalism, or something similar.
I mean, we don't allow that, you get warned, ignored the warning and claiming joking vandalizing profiles...Hahaha that's because I was told to make jokes to shock the one piece Indonesian fans.
Don't vandalize a page just for a joke.Hahaha that's because I was told to make jokes to shock the one piece Indonesian fans.
Updating feats on the profile with calcs doesn’t really require CRTs in the first place, as far as I know, at least. Antvasima on that same calc blog did not oppose its implementation but said to make a CRT just so we could determine who would scale, which we did two years ago, so I just relisted it there.This thread can't be closed, users applied the changes of a crt that upgrade the characters before any staff gave their input.
I may have. That was Shoichiro's first ever thread; I doubt he knows much about these things. Apologies for that, though I genuinely don’t think staff is necessary at all considering everything is already laid out and all.Right, looking back at it, you guys may have prematurely applied those proposed changes.
Let's see, I could agree that I don't see so much need to do a CRT to update a calculation, but to know who scales whom, and I agree with the prematurely thing since nobody knows if there will be any opposition from another supporter of the verse or someone who wants to add something, that's why you should call the supporters and have an evaluation .....Updating feats on the profile with calcs doesn’t really require CRTs in the first place, as far as I know, at least. Antvasima on that same calc blog did not oppose its implementation but said to make a CRT just so we could determine who would scale, which we did two years ago, so I just relisted it there.
I may have. That was Shoichiro's first ever thread; I doubt he knows much about these things. Apologies for that, though I genuinely don’t think staff is necessary at all considering everything is already laid out and all.
I mean, it is just applying some already accepted calculations, you can get the staff to easily support the CRT since it is practically accepted.You cannot tell me that getting a content moderator with no idea about verse or calcing to give it a "tis fine" somehow increases its credibility.
You don't seem to understand, no matter what, the rules state that to apply a crt to profiles staff input is needed, those are the rules.To not derail the original thread,
Updating feats on the profile with calcs doesn’t really require CRTs in the first place, as far as I know, at least. Antvasima on that same calc blog did not oppose its implementation but said to make a CRT just so we could determine who would scale, which we did two years ago, so I just relisted it there.
I may have. That was Shoichiro's first ever thread; I doubt he knows much about these things. Apologies for that, though I genuinely don’t think staff is necessary at all considering everything is already laid out and all.
You cannot tell me that getting a content moderator with no idea about verse or calcing to give it a "tis fine" somehow increases its credibility.
Only Creaturemaster and I are active supporters, and yes, we did agree on that scaling a while ago, and I know his opinions aren't any different because there is another CRT that covers scaling, and he hasn't said anything different, so who am I supposed to call -_-.Let's see, I could agree that I don't see so much need to do a CRT to update a calculation, but to know who scales whom, and I agree with the prematurely thing since nobody knows if there will be any opposition from another supporter of the verse or someone who wants to add something, that's why you should call the supporters and have an evaluation .....
That's kinda what I'm getting at, just getting someone with a shiny name to say "fine" is easy; but it adds nothing at all. I just bothered someone for no reason and that's all.I mean, it is just applying some already accepted calculations, you can get the staff to easily support the CRT since it is practically accepted.
There is no rule written anywhere that says staff must be present in every single CRT, no matter what it is. How much input a thread needs is dependent upon how controversial the verse is, what CRT changes, and the verse's popularity, or so I know.You don't seem to understand, no matter what, the rules state that to apply a crt to profiles staff input is needed, those are the rules.
The thing is, unlike Spy x Family, AC won't have more than three people looking at it unless I go write a message to every staff member; either way, only about two will come, I know that from that other AP thread. I also don't think that thread and this thread are comparable, but I get your point.I can think with a verse I support is a thread to upgrade characters ap based on an approved calc,
I did not say that; I wouldn't even know. When I first brought that feat up, some calc member said it'd be really hard to calculate it using those scans, hence my saying, "I thought that feat was almost uncalcable."And since you yourself said at the beginning of the thread that a calc member told you before that the feat was almost uncalculable, I think would be quite good if said calc member is contacted to see the calc and say if there is some problem that maybe the calc member that approved the calc didn't notice.
There is no rule written anywhere that says staff must be present in every single CRT, no matter what it is. How much input a thread needs is dependent upon how controversial the verse is, what CRT changes, and the verse's popularity, or so I know.
The rules specify that before make changes to pages is needed the evaluation of staff, the discussion rules says that and everyone (except new member) in the wiki know that, though if you claim that there have be crts in which changes applied without staff input then please share them so the involved users can be officially warned about how said thing isn't allowed.
- Before making sweeping or significant changes to characters or verse pages, please start a thread in the Content Revision forum first, so that the suggestions may be evaluated by the Staff and the community at large, to ensure that they are acceptable. The concluding evaluations must be handled by Thread Moderators, Administrators, or Bureaucrats, who should make an effort to base their evaluations on valid arguments, not personal opinions.
That isn't a excuse at all, there are several verses far less populars and with less supporters and that don't mean they can just simple apply the changes of their crt without staff input, they follow the rules like everyone else and seek and wait for staff input.The thing is, unlike Spy x Family, AC won't have more than three people looking at it unless I go write a message to every staff member; either way, only about two will come, I know that from that other AP thread. I also don't think that thread and this thread are comparable, but I get your point.
I did not say that; I wouldn't even know. When I first brought that feat up, some calc member said it'd be really hard to calculate it using those scans, hence my saying, "I thought that feat was almost uncalcable."
Your words, not mine. So considering that is likely better to ask that calc member if possible to take a look at the calc and see if there is any problem, if he don't answed then fine to continue with the crt but there is nothing wrong with trying to make sure everything is right.
You are the who got "A calc member told me before that the feat was almost uncalculable," from "And here I thought that feat was almost uncalcable due to what a calc member told me a while ago.", that's your interpretation, which isn't necessarily incorrect, but you can't really say it as fact.Your words, not mine. So considering that is likely better to ask that calc member if possible to take a look at the calc and see if there is any problem, if he don't answed then fine to continue with the crt but there is nothing wrong with trying to make sure everything is right.
It was not? Just telling you that the input difference between the two is expected, and yeah, dude, I get that; there were 8 threads on AC and 1 thread on Majin Tantei, with Majin Tantei being something only I have any knowledge on in the entire site probably, that I had to seek and wait for staff input on, but in this case, I simply don't think it's necessary; it's such a simple, laid-out, already practically accepted thing with no real changes other than giving the rating they had a value.That isn't a excuse at all, there are several verses far less populars and with less supporters and that don't mean they can just simple apply the changes of their crt without staff input, they follow the rules like everyone else and seek and wait for staff input.
Done.Cough... Ejem... Someone close this please?
I also think it would be necessary to keep an eye on this user..... In my opinion he seems to be just a troll and seems to have said something rude in a recent comment although it was not directed towards anyone specifically.Cough... Ejem... Someone close this please?
So, uh, can anyone with the authority do it now? Close the thread I mean.Hello, this thread can be closed now since three staff have agree.
I don't have the authoritycan anyone with the authority
I closed it.So, uh, can anyone with the authority do it now? Close the thread I mean.
My message got buried.
@Damage3245 @Elizhaa @Starter_Pack @Dereck03For the first one, I can't dig it up. The page was moved and became a redirect of this, which was also a redirect of an existing page. Everything else is handled.
I handled it.
What is your current username in our wiki?I also ask if you can change my profile name to "Fqawr" sorry if you mind, I'm grateful if you change my profile name
He's a currently banned user named "Fortzy62782" due to vandalism.What is your current username in our wiki?
Agreed. It may be best to permanently ban him.I also think it would be necessary to keep an eye on this user..... In my opinion he seems to be just a troll and seems to have said something rude in a recent comment although it was not directed towards anyone specifically.
It is honestly a bit unclear (including to me) when exactly that accepted calculations can be applied without content revision threads.To not derail the original thread,
Updating feats on the profile with calcs doesn’t really require CRTs in the first place, as far as I know, at least. Antvasima on that same calc blog did not oppose its implementation but said to make a CRT just so we could determine who would scale, which we did two years ago, so I just relisted it there.
Well, I could accept this.. should I reduce his block to 1 month instead?Well, since you seem to be regretful and have both tried to be honest and already been banned for roughly a month, maybe we can try to be nice in this case and just apply a block of another month if you promise to try to not cause any more problems for us in the future.
Sure... @Apex_Predator_GX Here's the sandbox with the profile.@Damage3245 @Elizhaa @Starter_Pack @Dereck03
Do you know how to properly handle these types of problems?
I think it's case by case whether or not a calculation update needs a content revision. If it's just a simple math correction in which Calc Group members agree is more accurate; including the one(s) who approved the previous calc initially, then I just say update but include URL to the new blog and/or mention an update in the original blog that was edited. But if there's a lot of debates over which one is more accurate with various note worthy reasons on both sides, a Calc Group discussion may be warrented.It is honestly a bit unclear (including to me) when exactly that accepted calculations can be applied without content revision threads.
If the resulting statistics changes are very uncontroversial, the feats very unquestionably reliable, there are no conflicting other accepted calculations, the changes in question will lead to self-evident improvements to the reliability of a verse, discussion regarding which characters that scale is also self-evident, and it is unlikely that the CRTs in question will get any input due to that the verses are impopular, I personally do not really mind if the changes in question are applied without a CRT, but the problem is that not all of our members will have a good sense of judgement regarding all of the above-mentioned issues.
A staff forum discussion thread should probably be created regarding how we should word rules for this issue.
@AKM sama @Promestein @DarkDragonMedeus @SomebodyData @Celestial_Pegasus @Wokistan @Ultima_Reality @Mr._Bambu @Elizhaa @Qawsedf234 @ByAsura @Sir_Ovens @Damage3245 @Starter_Pack @Abstractions @LordGriffin1000 @Colonel_Krukov @SamanPatou @GyroNutz
Do you think that we should create such a thread, and if so, would any of you be willing and able to properly handle it?
These are my thoughts as well.I think it's case by case whether or not a calculation update needs a content revision. If it's just a simple math correction in which Calc Group members agree is more accurate; including the one(s) who approved the previous calc initially, then I just say update but include URL to the new blog and/or mention an update in the original blog that was edited. But if there's a lot of debates over which one is more accurate with various note worthy reasons on both sides, a Calc Group discussion may be warrented.
Sorry, I want to ask how to enter the calc group. I want to calc Anos .I think it's case by case whether or not a calculation update needs a content revision. If it's just a simple math correction in which Calc Group members agree is more accurate; including the one(s) who approved the previous calc initially, then I just say update but include URL to the new blog and/or mention an update in the original blog that was edited. But if there's a lot of debates over which one is more accurate with various note worthy reasons on both sides, a Calc Group discussion may be warrented.
What exactly? You can share your thoughts in our discussion thread or discord group.Sorry, I want to ask how to enter the calc group. I want to calc Anos .