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Sure. Let me know when you've finished.
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All-purpose request thread (New forum)
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Thank you, the page is locked once more.
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Thread is concluded, request for it to be concluded
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I'd like to know if I can fix all the Tier 4 FFVII characters, since despite Sephiroth was upgraded to "4-A to 3-C", the only character who got upgraded to such tier from scaling from Sephi was Cloud, but all the others are still at 4-B instead of the new tiering.
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Are you certain that’s not intentional?
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The CRT has a whole spoiler list with inside the characters who scale tho
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It is unlocked. Let me know when you have finished.
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That seems fine to me, but isn't there an ongoing FFVII thread to discuss that issue in?
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No as I recall
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Thank you, I'm done.
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Okay. I probably misremembered, and you can likely apply the changes then.
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I realized that the changes needed are too much and is even a complex CRT. I edited just 3 pages I was sure they would scale, but I'd leave the rest to a FFVII expert.
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Issue was that it already suggested to apply, but no one did, so I tried to do myself, however the change is pretty complex due of the scaling being of this nature, so is needed a FFVII supporter to apply said changes accurately.
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Some spelling mistakes, and someone changed Infinite Mass Punch to Relativistic Mass Punch for some reason.
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Matt changed it since that's the proper name
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Where though? A google search of IMP provided at least 10 pages, but replacing Infinite with Relativistic provided no results.
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I never changed the Infinite Mass Punch to Relativistic Mass Punch, I don't recall ever doing that.
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Actually, checking the history, it looks like user Firestorm changed it in July 2020.
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@Antvasima @Lollipop_The_King i
I don't have access to the old threads right now, but I remember talking to the people on the thread with Ant about it at the time.
The name "Infinite Mass Punch" is a fan-made name that implies that Flash is always hitting with an infinite mass when this is not the case. It's explained in-universe that truly punching with an infinite mass would destroy the universe. It's more accurate to use the word "relativistic."
I don't have access to the old threads right now, but I remember talking to the people on the thread with Ant about it at the time.
The name "Infinite Mass Punch" is a fan-made name that implies that Flash is always hitting with an infinite mass when this is not the case. It's explained in-universe that truly punching with an infinite mass would destroy the universe. It's more accurate to use the word "relativistic."
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Actually, that was FanofRPGs who did the research for that and not Matt. I'm not even sure if Matt was aware or agreed, which he does have a right to say or counter argue if it's not true.
But according to the details, "Infinite Mass Punch" was just a name of a hypothetical ability Wally West had. The attack was never demonstrated, but there are lore statements about it. He hits with High 3-A levels of force via moving at exactly the speed of light, but it's a suicide punch. And "Relativistic Mass Punch" was another name but I recall that the technique doesn't actually have official names just a couple of fan made names. But Relativistic mass punch is what the "White Dwarf Star at Relativistic speeds" has been called as well as the 4-B calculation from that. And that's also something considered Superman's strongest attack since he completely lacks the "Infinite kinetic energy" required to perform the true IMP.
And honestly, the closest thing to an official name is simply "The punch that hits with the force of a white dwarf star", but RMP or "White Dwarf Star Punch" are both shortened nicknames.
But according to the details, "Infinite Mass Punch" was just a name of a hypothetical ability Wally West had. The attack was never demonstrated, but there are lore statements about it. He hits with High 3-A levels of force via moving at exactly the speed of light, but it's a suicide punch. And "Relativistic Mass Punch" was another name but I recall that the technique doesn't actually have official names just a couple of fan made names. But Relativistic mass punch is what the "White Dwarf Star at Relativistic speeds" has been called as well as the 4-B calculation from that. And that's also something considered Superman's strongest attack since he completely lacks the "Infinite kinetic energy" required to perform the true IMP.
And honestly, the closest thing to an official name is simply "The punch that hits with the force of a white dwarf star", but RMP or "White Dwarf Star Punch" are both shortened nicknames.
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Everybody on the internet calls it Infinite Mass Punch. Changing the name for VBW only now after people using it for 20 years is just being weird.
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Just because a lot of people use the phrase, doesn't mean it's canon or accurate.
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Yeah, it's just a fancy fan name. It never really was official.
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It is accurate tho every time someone uses it they say "Mass increases to infinity"
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Infinite Mass is part of the theoretical physics, yes. However, Flash does not achieve the qualities of Infinite Mass in any of the instances he performs his punch.
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I've been looking at SS's profile, and the second scan of his resistance to void hax contains archie material
"Has resisted existence erasure, can exist in Non-Existence/Void"
"Has resisted existence erasure, can exist in Non-Existence/Void"
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Looking at the Discussion Rules for Bleach, I found this:
"Regarding Yhwach from Bleach, there have been statements in some chapters misusing the term omnipotence and omniscience (Quite common in fiction). Please note that the franchise will NOT be upgraded to Tier 2 or above under any circumstances"
Of course, while the 1st part of the rule is still valid, the bolded part needs to be removed as Bleach is now Tier 2. Maybe it can go like this:
(Regarding Yhwach from Bleach, there have been statements in some chapters misusing the term omnipotence and omniscience (Quite common in fiction). Do not try to upgrade him to higher tiers solely on the basis of him being "Omnipotent")
"Regarding Yhwach from Bleach, there have been statements in some chapters misusing the term omnipotence and omniscience (Quite common in fiction). Please note that the franchise will NOT be upgraded to Tier 2 or above under any circumstances"
Of course, while the 1st part of the rule is still valid, the bolded part needs to be removed as Bleach is now Tier 2. Maybe it can go like this:
(Regarding Yhwach from Bleach, there have been statements in some chapters misusing the term omnipotence and omniscience (Quite common in fiction). Do not try to upgrade him to higher tiers solely on the basis of him being "Omnipotent")
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