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It is the same story, i never said it was a different story
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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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StarShooter80
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Dragon Ball Z is not like Steven Universe Future at all can you stop with these weird comparisons
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yeah you are right...
Fezzih_007
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It don't really need trought, after this tournament the characters din't need to destroy huge parts of the planet for really anything.
Roshi destroy the Moon because of Goku ape form, but the characters don't need to do this level of destruction in RR Arc, or the tournament 22.
Even in the Picollo arc It wans't needed.
He is.
But also not really, he not using his full Max Power, since It destroy the Moon.
In Dragon Ball, you do.
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in the Piccolo arc was needed for Piccolo specially, because he is someone who could perfectly destroy a city, so he could perfectly destroy the moon again
IT IS CALLED MAX power KAMEHAMEHA, stop trying to make it seem has if is not his full power, when it is
no, you only show veins when you use your full power or when you are a angry, not when you are concentrating
Sleep
Fezzih_007
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But there's no Moon to destroy.
Yeah, that's just the name of the attack, Roshi fired a Max Kamehameha in the Pillaf Arc, and just destroyed a mountain, but later he used in the Moon and was able to destroy It.
So there's two different level of a Max hamehameha, meaning the first one it was not his Max Power.
You do trought, Krillin did Scattering Bullet he veins show up.
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Then destroy a huge portion of earth
and that is the inconsistency, he used the same attack at the same power potency, and the attack destroyed a mountain and then later, the moon?
No, it means it is a inconsistency, because it is called max power KAMEHAMEHA, there are no different levels for the same attack, it is the same attack and it is meant to be at full power.
then it also when you put effort, because he does not need to concentrate to block bullets
Fezzih_007
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Yeah, so It wans't in the same Power potency.
Like, when he did against the mountain, he just yelled "Kamehameha" but when he destroyed the Moon, he yelled "Full Power Kamehameha"
Again, there's no need to do so.
What the heck you talking about?
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He was in his muscular state in both ocassions, when he is in his muscular state he is using his full power, also the first one is the introduction of the kamehameha
yes, there is
The veins are used when you use your full power, or you are enraged, or you are putting effort
Fezzih_007
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So? That don't mean every attack that he trown gonna have ALL his energy into It. Because he explicity yells "Full Power Kamehameha" when he does a second time, so the first It was not at Max strenght.
That being? Picollo don't have much reason to destroy a enormous part of the planet.
Yeah he said that, i asked what you refering to with this
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No, he is using his max power when buffed, not when he is skinny
he also had no reason to destroy every city each year yet he did, that is not a good excuse
why does Krillin need to concentrate to block bullets
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No, it us being accurate and separating stuff for different continuities, as we do with every other verse
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.......DBS Anime is as much different from the main canon as the Toei anime is, so by this logic we should still separate it
Specially when its scalling and story is completely different from the main canon, specially it shares continuity with Kai, letting in the main canon page is just desingenuous to what it is
No they are not, Kai and DBS Super Anime are just as divergent in those aspects
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No? I'm sorry but do you feel ok? Can you name a bit of cosmology lore in super that's different between them? The biggest difference even close to that is the top 5 warriors statment vs the strongest of them all.
Well...yes that is why it was separated I was here when it happened, and no there not separated because all continuitys are separated, there not, there separated for mostly practical reasons like clutter and that if a user is looking for one they probably don't want the other
Fezzih_007
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I din't say he was trought.
He did because he is evil and want to spread terror, by slowing killing the population on earth, but doing a Moon size explosion on the planet for no reason during the story? He don't have any reason.
Man, you hilarious.
Ok so you said this
So I point out a moment when Killing does a attack, bullet scattering, when he does concentrate.
And you somehow mistook this for saying Krillin took effort in block bullets? Really?
Lmao, you a funny person.
Are you trolling me or what?
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ok
It's not like he's going to kill everyone anyway.
i am going to be honest, i didn't know the name was that for the attack, mostly because it is in english and the names of the dragon ball attacks in english are Shit, like try ray?solar flare?Special beam cannon?
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that's oddly specific
yes they are, DB Games was the same page at one point, and that always had different Cosmology, since it was a different continuity, it was separated
no, they are cuz they are different continuities
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Speaking of Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Z is just a beautiful art with several original episodes that Akira Toriyama put together, what came after that was "GT" which is a parallel reality according to Akira Toriyama.
For me everything is an infinite shared multiverse of DB
For me everything is an infinite shared multiverse of DB
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good for you, because as far as we know there are zero confirmations, and it doesn't seem like Toyotaro wanted to canonize gt
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Goku sola!
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a quien luffy?
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Because it was literally the only difference I could think of
The only reason they weren't separate for so long was because no one wanted to do it.
As far as I know and have experienced on this wiki, you are simply wrong.
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.........are you seriously trying to tell me the DBS Manga and Anime are indentical in everything, story, characters, etc, and that cosmology is the only difference you can think of?.....have, have you ever read or watched both? like.....at all?
............yeah, good opinion
see verses like Sonic and Dragon Ball itself and you will see that different continuities get different verse pages due to their differences, and even then they are still separated even if they are the same continuity, like Sonic Boom and Archie Sonic Post-Reboot and Dr.Slump and Dragon Ball
As far as I know and have experienced on this wiki, you are simply wrong.
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Cosmology is the only difference that matters largly because of the nature if high level feats. This discussion has essential boiled down to "I'm right about this your wrong" do I don't intend to engage with it anymore
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......no, no it isn't, the story is significantly different, as much different as Toei DB and Manga DB
ok
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Are...you ok? I mean this completely legitimately. How can you think the existence of characters like garlic jr, janimba, and cooler not to mention entire arks like the other world tournament with an entire extra series taking place years later is equivalent to the differences between the super anime and manga? 2 things that well the storyline differ use the same characters and concepts for there storys? You somehow think these things are equally different?
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1 i said specifically Toei's differences with the manga, as in, not including GT as it isn't a different depiction of a new story
2 yeah, the DBS Anime has many different characters in its episodes, thr clone Vegeta, Barry Khan and that weird pasite thing, the cat aliens that came to fight Mr.Satan, etc. As well as several additional arcs and fights, like the copy Vegeta one, so yeah, i am quite serious when saying both are majorly different
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1 GT is definitely part of the toei timeline and there is no reasonable interpretation of what you've been talking about so far that excludes GT, you're only trying to exclude it now, because it makes what you were saying before objectively absurd.
2 the OG dragonball and DBZ have many times more one off filler characters. You claimed they were equally different, I found that idea absurd (and it is) these one off filler characters aren't a major difference. They change nothing in the grand scale of the world and fit the tone and setting of both manga and anime it is the major changing of cosmology and add ons that make story beats impossible that truly make it a "major difference"
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No it doesn't? I was purely comparing the OG Manga with the original adaptation of the Toei anime......if you want to include GT i can just as easily include Super, which leaves the original points of the ammount of differences the same..........so, again, i wasn't talking about GT, as GT can be a difference Z Toei to Z Manga as GT isn't Z Toei, it is a different Anime that continues its story
i don't mean in a literal sense, as i didn't stopped to count the ammount of filler characters, but the the ammount of completely new added content that was not in the manga, percentage wise, is similar
......and you are the one to put in stone what is "major" and what isn't because?
and that matters for them to be factually different because? And to have many additions in mass that weren't in the manga how?
......this matters for a conversation about differences......how?
..........again, you decide what is major and what isn't......why?
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Working on something for this
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No you were talking about how the toei timeline and the kia/super timeline were equally different from the OG Manga super timeline. They aren't equally different there is no context. I don't see a good reason to continue this discussion honestly your in deep denial about things you yourself said I've honestly lost alot of respect for you, I genuinely hope you just are tired and that's why this is happening. Please have a good day and get some rest.
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God damn bro I mean I take issue with Omega's argumentation, him digging his heels and stone walling everything, and his obvious bias against the verse but this was some cold ass shit
Bro lost respect for him
Mfer dumped him that shi tragic new patek
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DB Ultimate Villain, lol
Pyro9278
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Tomboy vs. Monkey Boy
Rules:
Ryūko Matoi (31.0 Exatons):
Son Goku (118.4 Exatons):
Incon:
Rules:
- Equal Speed.
- The fight takes place in Tokyo, both starting 80 meters apart.
- Ryuko Kisaragi.
- Goku 23rd Budōkai.
Ryūko Matoi (31.0 Exatons):
Son Goku (118.4 Exatons):
Incon:
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Then whom is DB Ultimate Hero?
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Goku
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Yet Goku got beat by the Ultimate Villain
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Ua tbh I don't know if it'll change much. We could arguably have another tier 1 character. But he'll probably just be tier 2.
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